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I hope there will never be a thing such as a karma system on Lemmy.
Personally, I don't want people to write just what other want to read.
Instead, I want people to write what they really want to say without thinking about their score and the restrictions in case of not having enough points (this doesn't mean that everyone should feel free to be a bigot of course. Bigotry, obnixious trolling, etc... are not okay and definitely desserve ban).
That's a valid and valuable point.
Personally, I don’t want people to write just what other want to read.
Instead, I want people to write what they really want to say without thinking about their score
In a way, both systems are just different implementations of social regulation. One system achieves it through numbers. If you remove numbers, people will still express their approval or dismissal, in words. This has some regulating effect on what people write, how openly they express themselves. And I'm not even sure that's a bad thing.
Of course, in a system with karma people can still additionally express their reactions with words.
My main point is, we cannot have a system without social regulation, that's just an inherent part of human interactions. I can think of reasons for and against amplifying it further with karma. Personally I like it though.
I think they were refering to "karma whoring". It has nothing to do with social regulation, just the fact that there's a bunch of people (and bots!) that will do anything for fake internet points. It's just insincere at the end of the day.
Yes, I think you are right. I did not distinguish properly between karma within a thread, and karma across threads, on an account level.
Within threads (which is what we have here) karma can function as a social regulator. Across threads (which we don't have) it depends on too many other factors like community size to have that effect.
I agree the latter encourages "karma whoring" without being able to sort good from bad anymore. So at the end of the day, I find the current system is a quite sensible compromise.
Sorry to inform you that there already is, it's just that most instances don't expose it. But lemmy keeps track of all the up and down votes and i believe it's all public with the right query to the instance.
Not gamifying the desire to give "correct" answers is a positive and not negative IMO
I'm a new user, using phone app right now, can't find anything like that. I guess user karma is like Bitcoin, great in theory but not so great given lots of time and the effects of incentives on human behavior
Jerboa looks like it has the points system, but it's only tied to a specific post or comment, unlike Reddit with it being overarching.