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Main points: He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

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[–] aka_oscar 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No way we're gonna see reddit elections and campaigns this is hilarious

[–] vyvanse@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Right? How does he not see that this is a terrible idea.

[–] aka_oscar 3 points 1 year ago

Ok, reading the article, removing mods through voting doesnt sound too bad when you consider that turtle-something mod, who moderates way too many servers and removes/bans every post/user talking shit about them. Finally we can get power hungry mods out the fucking door.

Too bad they only decided to work on it to kick those mods keeping the blackout alive. Like why do they want to fight their userbase so badly

[–] Philip@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Is the CEO going to be popularly elected too?

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

come work for free

No thanks

builds an entire self-hosted instance of an open source, federated social media network...

[–] supernovae@readit.buzz 5 points 1 year ago

So you do all that work for nothing just to be able to be voted out? 😂

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this is gonna be awful

[–] xXxOxhamxXx 9 points 1 year ago
[–] Catch42@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He referred to the mods as landed gentry, which is such a gross and lazy way to try to get people on his side. It has a major flaw too: mods are unpaid, the whole idea behind gentry is that they make money from owning their land.

Let me help you out spez, you piece of shit, if you want to criticize the millions of dollars of unpaid work that mods do for their communities try comparing them to an HOA committee, that at least has a kernel of truth.

[–] Melon_Cooler@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It's even more hilarious when the label is much more accurately applied to capital owners such as himself; they are the ones actually making money off of other people's labour via their ownership (of a company rather than land).

[–] ForbiddenRoot@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

I totally second this idea. The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

Even better. All posts in these subs can be advertisements, perfect.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

Yeah, don't even spend 3% of revenues as a cost of doing business. The soon-to-be-community-elected mods will do it for free. Super.

[–] Loccy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

And lo, the Internet looked down upon it's handiwork, and verily, t'was awesome.

All posts in these (business) subs can be advertisements, perfect.

And nobody will ever go there. And, two years down the track, u/spaz will hoik up the pricing or cut them off entirely because they're making money off of a non-profitable Reddit. "We want to work with the business subs but they're not interested in talking to us and have all thrown their toys out of the pram and shut down".

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Oh you want to have popular elections for mods? Do it, see what happens. Poll crashing is a fucking sport.

Oh yeah, and:

“If you’re a politician or a business owner, you are accountable to your constituents. So a politician needs to be elected, and a business owner can be fired by its shareholders,” he said.

CEO of a company doesn't even understand business ownership. Business owners cannot be fired. They can be bought out. Shareholders are owners. C-level employees are almost universally also owners. Nobody can just "take away" ownership; it has to be bought, and an owner of property is the person who gets to decide whether to sell it or not. What an idiot.

[–] LedgeDrop 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the article, but can we talk about the eye-cancer that MSN has de-evolved into?

I click on the link, see the first 3 lines of the article (that I cannot actually click on to read the rest) followed up with an infinite wall of ads and "other articles you may enjoy".

[–] Tashlan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

FUCKING LOL he's seething

[–] giddy 2 points 1 year ago

tone deaf much?

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watch subs elect actual Nazis, trolls, incels and transphobes to be moderators for the lols and then the site ends up being a cesspool.

[–] Xeon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

So you're saying it isn't yet?

[–] ogg42@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The correct response is scorched earth, time to delete the protesting subreddits. the CEO has zero respect for those folks who built those community’s, might as well help remove the actual value of reddit.

[–] Awhiskeydrunker@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deleting the subreddits would be an easily reversible action for admins. Users will need to edit over comments to actually make a change that wouldn’t easily be reverted. Idk, maybe it could be. It would have to be a lot more users too.

[–] crilen@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm positive they made a backup before announcing the change. We would have to edit the comments to something not easily detected like random words.

[–] decavolt@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

He can stuff the votes with bots and get what he wants. Don't think for a second that he'll let people like you and I succeed at voting out mods who are on his side.

[–] Matharl@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smart move, it will definitely makes me go back to Reddit.
To vote for moderators who don’t want to end the protest.

Can we vote for the admins too?

[–] bill_1992@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You can "vote" against Reddit by not using it ;)

[–] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While undeniably shitty, how amazing would it be if after instituting popular voting on mods more subreddits voted to go private? Not likely but it is tempting

[–] ForbiddenRoot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I feel one of the reasons many subs have not gone indefinitely dark is that the mods too are attached to their communities, and probably rightfully so. If they are going to get booted out, which may easily happen when you leave it up to the Reddit horde to decide, then they might just decide to shut down the sub.

[–] nightofgrim@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll go back to reddit for a day to vote him off of r/programming

[–] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also the long game of voting in the most appalling mods you can find.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Hey. I volunteer to change my reddit profile pic to a picture of me- with my pasty white legs- wearing socks with sandals.

What an ass. I hope this gets some mods still over there to move here.

[–] Tashlan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly like, if he makes it so mods can be popularly elected/unelected, well, he's gonna end up with the other sort of Reddit protestor -- the feral shitposters -- tearing down every mod on the whole page. I assume he would have to reverse that policy at exactly the moment he gets rid of his ... enemies, I guess? -- or else ViolentAcrezMAGAEdition is gonna be running r/worldnews with Roger Stone.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's the bots that'll rule.

There's a shit load of botting services out there you can pay to upvote your agenda. And those services have the revenue generation to pay for the exorbitant API access.

Unless a sub is private... anyone can vote in polls, even if it's restricted. Reddit may even have it's own bots jumping in at that point.
I wonder which is a less fair, russian annexation referendums or reddit mod votes.

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