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With the recent decision to defed. It got me wondering is there an RSS of sorts to get a feed of activity on different communities across different instances in a fed/defed agnostic way? (self.chat)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by GhostMagician to c/chat

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It's inconvenient to have to hop between different instances to see what is going on, and it would be nice to just be able to aggregate it all in someway like the equivalent of multisubreddits in events where defed happens.

One hypothetical being

lemmy/c/PatientGamers@sh.itjust.works+technology@beehaw.org+Futurama @lemmy.world+Android@lemmy.world+RetroGaming@lemmy.world+PC Gaming@lemmy.ca+Movies and TV Shows@lemmy.film/.rss

Being able to customize the feed you see regardless of where you are signed in or not signed in would make it so much easier to juggle different accounts depending on the policies of each, and stay connected with the communities you want. Would also make it easier for instances to be able to defed without worrying as much on impact on users to create the space they want.

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[–] DJDarren 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

~~So~~ ~~far~~ ~~as~~ ~~I~~ ~~understand~~ ~~how~~ ~~all~~ ~~this~~ ~~works,~~ ~~assuming~~ ~~you~~ ~~wanted~~ ~~to~~ ~~sub~~ ~~to~~ ~~PatientGamers@sh.itjust.works,~~ ~~all~~ ~~you~~ ~~need~~ ~~to~~ ~~do~~ ~~is~~ ~~search~~ ~~for~~ ~~!patientgamers@sh.itjust.works~~ ~~while~~ ~~signed~~ ~~in~~ ~~to~~ ~~Beehaw,~~ ~~and~~ ~~it'll~~ ~~show~~ ~~up~~ ~~in~~ ~~the~~ ~~search~~ ~~bar.~~

~~Defederation~~ ~~doesn't~~ ~~mean~~ ~~that~~ ~~you~~ ~~can't~~ ~~ever~~ ~~see~~ ~~content~~ ~~on~~ ~~other~~ ~~servers,~~ ~~just~~ ~~that~~ ~~content~~ ~~from~~ ~~those~~ ~~servers~~ ~~doesn't~~ ~~naturally~~ ~~filter~~ ~~across~~ ~~into~~ ~~this~~ ~~one.~~ ~~It~~ ~~just~~ ~~means~~ ~~that~~ ~~you~~ ~~being~~ ~~subbed~~ ~~to~~ ~~it~~ ~~from~~ ~~here~~ ~~won't~~ ~~make~~ ~~it~~ ~~show~~ ~~up~~ ~~for~~ ~~anyone~~ ~~who~~ ~~isn't~~ ~~subbed~~ ~~to~~ ~~it.~~

Ignore me, I'm talking out my arse.

[–] nlm 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's a post from lemmy.world on how the defederation affects them:

https://lemmy.world/post/149743

[–] DJDarren 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I've edited my initial comment to reflect my changing level of understanding.

[–] GhostMagician 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What happens if the instance also defeds beehaw.org?

That's the type thing that has me wishing there was a reliable way to get a single feed to view the communities I want without worry about the decisions of each instance against the other. Especially with the decisions being an impact on the entire instance as opposed to a whitelist of certain communities.

[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 4 points 1 year ago

That's the type thing that has me wishing there was a reliable way to get a single feed to view the communities I want without worry about the decisions of each instance against the other.

Self-host a Lemmy instance. I think as long as you and whoever you share it with respects the rules of whatever instance you're interacting with you should have no problems accessing all of the communities.

[–] DJDarren 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That I can't answer with any confidence. I would assume it works the same way, in as much as Beehaw's content simply wouldn't naturally filter into the feeds of the other instance's users, but I'm happy to be set straight on that if I'm wrong.

[–] GhostMagician 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So does that means if a member of a defeded instance searches out a community with ![community]@[bannedinstance] it will show up in community/all when they search for it, but members of that instance just won't be able to comment or vote?

Even then I do think an RSS would be nice to have in the event an instance disappears and then having to search out which communities you were active in again.

On reddit it had made it easier resub to subreddits you had been subscribed to when you were deleting accounts and moving to a new one through use of multrisubreddit links.

Edit: Tested it out and looks like is options to set which posts to make comments visible or not? So users from banned instances could see posts but potentially not comments? Actually it seems like once the defed happens only old content remains, so even if you are subscribed you no longer see anything new. I guess this promotes push to instances that are on good terms as many as possible? Like lemmy.ml for those who want to have an uninterrupted subscription feed?

[–] nlm 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't seem to work like that. I was subbed to a few communities on lemmy.world and I'm not getting any new posts there now as far as i can see.

It still looks like I'm subbed but there's nothing coming through.

[–] DJDarren 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, perhaps I'm wrong then. Sorry.

[–] nlm 2 points 1 year ago

No worries, I'm pretty new to this so I could be wrong! But it certainly looks like everything from those two instances dropped off!