Earlier accidentally opened a post i had answered to, not located on Beehaw, on the original instance. To my surprise it has a lot of comments on the original instance that don't show up here.

Is it that i'm doing something wrong, or is this some kind of actual bug or tech issue?

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[–] anji@lemmy.anji.nl 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

When I go to https://beehaw.org/c/music@lemmy.ml I see "0 subscribers". It appears nobody on Beehaw subscribes to this external community. This means posts and comments are not actively being pushed from Lemmy.ml to Beehaw. Until at least one Beehaw user subscribes to this community it will remain in a sort of limbo-state with missing posts and comments.

I have asked the Lemmy developers to implement more proactive "fetch posts/comments from remote" behavior for instances, but while they acknowledge this could be more intuitive it's not a priority on their roadmap.

To be clear this is not a bug as such, just how Lemmy federation works currently.

[–] jherazob 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The logical thing would be that if i open a post it MUST get all the comments on it, anything else makes absolutely no sense

[–] remington 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I and many others agree. Here's an idea -> Once, every other week, someone goes over to Lemmy Support and makes a post about it. They will, eventually, fix this.

[–] jherazob 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Damn, just saw that the opposite is also true, this post got a comment here, which is not showing up on the original instance

This is not "unintuitive", this is BROKEN, the whole point of federation is that instances talk to each other and doesn't matter where your account is, this is plain broken and halfway to useless

[–] remington 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please, don't abandon ship just yet. As I stated before, they will get around to fixing this. I've been here a little over a year and have witnessed many improvements.

[–] jherazob 4 points 2 years ago

Good intuition, was actually thinking it, i came from Reddit looking for a new home after 17 years there and was rather disappointed, don't see any point in commenting only for the words being lost to the wind and me ending yelling at clouds, was actually thinking "where to now?". Will wait and see.

[–] anji@lemmy.anji.nl 7 points 2 years ago

I agree it's broken, however YSK this is also a side-effect of the design principles of ActivityPub.

If you use Mastodon you may have noticed boosted posts from people you.. A. don't follow and B from other instances have no replies. This is especially noticeable if you're on a small or personal instance. The root cause is identical to missing posts/comments on Lemmy: Nobody pushed the replies, and Mastodon won't fetch it for you.

Some sort of standardized "History fetching" mechanism would've been nice if it were in the actual spec IMO.

[–] skycat 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think those two posts are posted by 2 diffferent users

[–] jherazob 3 points 2 years ago

Oh...

[–] remington 7 points 2 years ago

This is, more than likely, what is going on. There is a recent post about some of this here.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Been seeing a lot of "15 Comments" then I click and there's like 1 comment there on Lemmy.ml recently too

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think there was an issue discovered sometime ago about federated comments from Mastodon not showing up but being counted.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

The networking part of the fediverse is kind of flimsy, I think it's getting better but bugs often come up

[–] metaltoilet 3 points 2 years ago

Yep same. Hopefully fixed soon

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