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I Replaced My Entire Work Setup with European Software โ€“ Is It Possible? (youtu.be)
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[โ€“] jherazob 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

For personal reference and for the lazy (i think it's complete, did it in a hurry in a break):

I note that a good portion of these are commercial products, frankly I'd trust MUCH more a FOSS product than a commercial one after so damn many over the years have betrayed us all in the search for profit, if you're gonna migrate to something you may as well go for the FOSS ones that are less in danger of enshittification (not a guarantee but far less of a chance since a fork kills all the walls around a walled garden pretty quickly), even if the FOSS product is not as polished.

[โ€“] undone@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

Tana let's you only create an account if you log in through Google, Apple, Github, Microsoft.

No, thank you.

[โ€“] huppakee@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Thanks. Agree that this push away from us services should be seen as an opportunity to expand foss alternatives as well

[โ€“] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What is FOSS? When i try to look it up, it just shows me some local companys website.

[โ€“] drspod@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Free Open Source Software. It is software that gives you the freedom to see the source code, make modifications to it, and redistribute your changed version of the software to your friends.

FOSS software is generally developed in the open by a community of volunteers, although we are increasingly seeing FOSS projects take on funding from community donations or corporations that want to support the software's development.

You can read more about it on the Free Software Foundation page: https://www.fsf.org/about/

[โ€“] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks ๐Ÿ˜… obviously i know about open source, just never heard it called FOSS before

[โ€“] zonnewin@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago

It's a mashup of Free Software and Open Source Software.

[โ€“] RedSnt@feddit.dk 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

FOSS is either "Free and Open Source Software" or a Danish company that makes valves and termostats and stuff like that hehe
EDIT: Wait no, that's Danfoss I was thinking of, but FOSS is still a Danish company except it provides "high-tech analytical solutions", whatever that means. Idk what's the deal with "foss" names and Denmark, it doesn't sound very Danish to me (as a Dane).

[โ€“] bent@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Foss means waterfall in Norwegian from Norse fors. It doesn't see any use in modern Danish from what I know, but there might be a link there considering that Danfoss works in fluid control equipment, pump, seal, valve manufacturing, climate & energy

[โ€“] RedSnt@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago

True, it's very rarely used in Danish any more. We do however say "det fosser ud/ind" regarding money/water/gas, so it is used in those specific cases. But I don't think I've ever heard it elsewhere.

[โ€“] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

I'm Danish, so when i tried searching for it, it only wanted to show me the company lol.

[โ€“] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's pretty easy if you have an e-mail job, but it's hard to avoid American software with stuff like CAD.

[โ€“] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 20 points 4 days ago

Dassault Systemes (CATIA and SolidWorks) is French and Bricsys (BricsCAD) it's Belgian/Swedish. Unfortunately PTC and Autodesk are both American.

[โ€“] jherazob 8 points 4 days ago

The objective is not "perfect", but "better than what we have", there's probably no way to get to perfect today within some niches, but there's still chances of improvement

[โ€“] thedarkfly@feddit.nl 5 points 4 days ago

Siemens (NX etc) is pretty European though.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago

Good overview for awareness. Now add peertube.

[โ€“] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I work on Linux. The Linux Foundation is based in America and has recently demonstrated it abides by american law (by kicking russian maintainers).

Is there an alternative?

[โ€“] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

If Linux Foundation continues to comply with unjust and dangerous laws, I imagine europe will just establish their own fork foundation, rather than ditching linux.

That would be a schism to behold

[โ€“] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's all pointless without replacing windows, which is impossible if you work in any sort of manufacturing job. CAD/CAM requires Windows (please don't suggest FreeCAD), industrial automation requires Windows, any specialized devices with software control requires Windows.

Heck, industrial PCs by and large run Windows, which is insane to me.

[โ€“] lazycog@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Siemens is finally moving on to BSD IIRC and (slowly) industrial PC's are going to switch over.

Last new industrial windows based PC, server, as well as HMI I installed was in 2022. But yeah it's slow.

[โ€“] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Beckhoff Is supposed to have a Linux version of the TwinCAT runtime SOONโ„ข

[โ€“] lazycog@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Awesome! Glad we are getting rid of windows in critical infrastructure. I can't count the amount of times I've had to make workarounds that feel wrong due to windows being... Windows. And the amount of time I've spent on making sure it doesn't cause trouble anytime...

[โ€“] tuga@masto.pt 3 points 4 days ago

@Damage
Requires windows until an entire bloc legislates that any software vendor fir specific critical sectors must support #BSD or #linux... then it'll suddenly not require windows.
@Blaze

[โ€“] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago

I mean the largest problem in a business sense has always been cooperating with other businesses.
That microsoft excel file your distributor sent you with builtin macros and code that just won't function correctly in libreoffice calc and so on.
It's already a source of friction when university folks in sweden primarily using the google workplace want to coordinate with businesses in sweden that are mostly using microsoft office.
In construction the most common way to coordinate with subtractors is through microsoft teams/sharepoint online, at least here in sweden.