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Seriously, who knows just how many backdoors there are in this shit.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You could ask the same about US tech?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But those are for hire. Unlike American Democracy, the CCP can't be bought.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you always know what is the risk and who's responsible for it with Chinese tech, and for American tech you'll never know who's stealing your data and what enshittification will happen on the next day

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

And the Chinese can buy from the Americans, just like anyone else, because America's only loyalty is to profit.

[–] sqgl 1 points 1 week ago

Didn't Trump's daughter get the greenlight for her handbag sales in China at a time Trump was pretending to talk tough on China Tariffs?

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago

whataboutism – as long as you’re distracted by “China!”, you aren’t paying attention to the far more egregious privacy violations happening right here at home

Just so you know; American tech is the exact same with different overlords, and Europe is actively banning encryption.

Where do you want to go?

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean it's been talked about over and over again leading to US accusing TikTok of spying on users and EU* banning Huawei and ZTE from 5G infrastructure.
But end users just doesn't care. They click accept all on every popup without even reading if it's cookies or to allow the site to send scam antivirus notifications. They buy the cheap chinese phone because it's cheap just as they buy shit from Temu and Shein even when their plastic is poisonous and their workers are stuck with 75 hour weeks and not being allowed to leave the premises.

*Not all EU countries has chosen to ban them.
https://cybernews.com/security/bytedance-used-tiktok-data-spy-on-americans-supreme-court/
https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/08/12/eleven-eu-countries-took-5g-security-measures-to-ban-huawei-zte

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

75 hour weeks nad not being allowed to leave the premises.

That will be coming to the western world before you know it.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's already here. We exploit incarcerated people for slave labor, and (I'm sure purely out of coincidence /s) we have one of the highest incarceration rates of any nation in the world. Not to mention private prisons, which is not a thing that would exist in any state existing in good faith.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True that. Also, right to work. I’m not USAmerican though so I’m not as aware.

Yep! And it wasn't that long ago I actually lost my job explicitly for being gay, which was totally legal. That's one of the reasons the US has to fear-monger about other nations, so we won't notice the exact same things or worse happening here.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh look, it's the French imperialist Anti-tankie propaganda boy again.

[–] terusgormand8465@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume I'm a boy... Don't worry I'm used to it sweetie many people, especially brainwashed tankie trolls tend to not understand or respect Nonbinary identities.

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

They don't have the mental capacity to hold anything remotely ambiguous or undefined in their rigid minds. So they try to force reality to conform to their overly simplistic little mental landscape.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago
[–] Australis13@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

Because any tech has privacy risks?

We're no longer living in a world where the only major cybersecurity threats are CCP-backed tech and Russian hackers.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Generally I don't think Chinese tech is really any worse than "US" (aka; made in china by a US company) tech.

The software running on phones and stuff is likely worse though, some things should be avoided.

[–] Kng@feddit.rocks 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm more concerned about security. In most circumstances my data is really not worth that much especially when hardware is involved. They might be collecting some data for other reasons but I am not convinced that a significant amount of hardware has a malicious backdoor.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah individually your data is approximately worth 200$/year (that's a real estimation I read somewhere, not something I spit out of my ass).

So yeah not much worth you're right. But if you stop being selfish for a moment and think as a community and take that portion for 1 billion people on earth, how much is that worth? Yeah you guessed it... It's a huge amount of money ^^ !

So stop thinking only for your self and start to think how we are all involved in this shit and should fight back as much as possible...