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What angle must the blade be? Is it good to have a high attack angle, or one that's nearly flat?

How heavy should the apparatus holding the blade be? How far should it travel? Is keen sharpening important, or does the weight do most of the work? What kind of latch/release do you use?

Lastly, morbid extra credit, did they ever execute someone with their face up, so they could see the blade coming?

EDIT FOR CLARITY: Way more complex than an axe or a noose.

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[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a noose or an axe both put much more need on the skill of the executioner, while the guillotine puts more need on the skill of the engineer. both the axe and the noose are materially simpler, but still very fuckupable without special skills or training, while the guillotine, once built, is much more simply operated by one with less expertise. the guillotine is a tool of mass execution, and its apparent mechanical complexity is there to facilitate that, via ease of operation and resetability.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Absolutely. The National Assembly voted the guillotine, β€œthe most gentle of lethal methods.”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9930870/

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This thread led me down a bit of a rabbit hole, so I suppose I'll post some of my meager findings.

Of course, the Wikipedia Article On The Guillotine includes a brief history documenting the evolution of it's invention, but is sparse on the technical specifications, which online searches also turned up a bit sparse.

I did eventually land on this technical schematic PDF of the Guillotine from archive.org.

Somewhat amusing to find, you can also pay for the blueprints to creating a historically accurate replica guillotine here.

As a morbid aside, the Wikipedia article details under the Controversy Section the dispute as to whether a decapitated head remained alive shortly after the beheading and the eye witness account of someone witnessing the staring of a decapitated man's eyes after calling out his name multiple times. The description is deliciously macabre.

Don't think this really answered your question OP, but nevertheless, this was intriguing for me to look into, so thanks for sparking my curiosity with your post!

EDIT: Fixing various small typos.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A couple of observations from the schematics:

  1. Wheels on the side of the blade mechanism! I thought it just slid!
  2. Springs? There are springs?
[–] The_Che_Banana 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they gave them a choice to face up or face down. Some chose to look at the sky one last time before the blade fell....might have been a better view than a basket with dried....and not so dried blood on it.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

I choose...sideways. I'll make faces at some kid in the crowd. And when the blade comes down, my face will be stuck that way!

His mom will be proved right! Don't make faces or your face will get stuck that way!

If you're guillotineed.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

I choose to believe OP is Luigi planning his next move

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They were pretty well optimised, frequently sharpened and they had an angled blade with a decent amount of weight behind it. This means that there's reduced surface area at the point of contact so higher penetration. Guillotines don't miss as they've got a guide, unlike axes which were known for occasionally gouging the victim's back, because executioners did miss!

Rusty cage built a massive one a couple years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SakGM31nfec