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'They own what happens next': Enraged AOC slams Senate Dems over 'inexplicable abdication' (www.rawstory.com)
submitted 2 weeks ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/usa@midwest.social
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An enraged Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) again lashed out at Senate Democrats over what she called Friday evening an "inexplicable abdication."

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My YES vote is not an endorsement of this deeply flawed CR. My YES vote is [100 percent] about refusing to shut our government down. I refuse to punish working families and plunge millions of Americans into chaos. -Fedderman

For fuck sake man, have you looked around? Shutting down everything and nerfing this tool's ability to direct anyone to do anything would be less chaotic than it is right now.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

fetterman was always a hack, i dont think he really cares about "working families" after his stroke.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They knew they were going to get crapped on for this. I'm glad she's saying it, but Fetterman and Schumer don't give a shit you can believe that, and I see no reason to think the rest of them do either.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

fetterman is a no brainer in voting for it, but the others have same donors as the gop probably threatened them to pull funding thier livelyhood.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago

The are owned. They are responsible to what happens now. They are not for the people, they are for themselves.

[–] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago

https://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact/message-chuck

Also https://democracy.io/ is good for US citizens who want to voice their opinions to their congressional reps.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can we start SLAMming people like we did in Bloody Kansas? 🤔

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

only if we're going to get on that john brown timing we should go in with a better plan. not saying not to go in on that john brown timing. john brown and john g fee both did important things and i think they both were recuired to make forward progress and our current problem is we haven't enough browns and we have too many fees

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I have been thinking about this and im no longer sure this was a bad move. With what trump is doing now in tearing apart the government. It can be fought in the courts. With a shutdown he would have cart blanche to furlough anyone he wants and keep paying his insiders and the courts could not say boo because shutdown. Further he could say all bad effects are because of the democrats because shutdown. At least now the courts can fight it and the bad effects are all from his poor decisions.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Federal courts can still operate after government shutdown. While most of their funding comes from the Congress, they have their reserve funds and others sources like fees from court document filings.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

they can operate but because of the shutdown employees have to be furloughed and they can choose anyone. when they fire someone it can be done without cause or break laws that can allow the courts to undo it but there will be little ability to undo a furlough that is because of a shutdown.

[–] helloworld55@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm glad someone is saying this.

While I understand people don't want to give Trump any wins, choosing the shut the government down is the wrong hill to die on. Given the chaos that DOGE has caused, and the executive branch throwing around their power completely unchecked, shutting down the government would plunge america into chaos.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump had a plan to frame the government shutdown as "government inefficiency" and use it to grab much more executive power.

[–] theluckyone@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let the Republicans take the blame for bring it all down.

Oh wait, you're right. The Democrats would never blame them either.

[–] helloworld55@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, does it really matter?

Even if the Democrats are blaming Trump for the shutdown, what do you think would be Trump's next move after Congress refuses to fund the government?

[–] chaos 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if the right move was "give up and do what the Republicans want," they still did a terrible job. House Democrats held the line and stuck their necks out, only to get blindsided, and Schumer shouldn't have signaled that there'd be a fight right before he caved. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and only a handful of people in the party seem to even be trying to do anything.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I can agree with the second part but the first part is just a phrasing to make it sound bad. I mean the move to use the republicans blunder against them sounds a lot better. I don't really know what internal talk went with the democrats but I would not be surprised if it was somewhat like what we see online but with the membership with some saying we can't go with anything they do on principle and others saying wait a second doing that will be overall worse.