When people dismiss children's concerns. Maybe to adults is not a big deal, but to kids it does matter. I make an effort to pay attention and listen when a child tells me something.
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This. Sexual abuse goes ignored because of this attitude in parents
People not caring about their privacy and their data being collected and sold to everyone. "Eh, it's not like my data is worth anything". If it wasn't, it wouldn't be sold, moron. All those spam and scam calls you receive? Yeah, that's because your "worthless" data is being sold, resold and spread out everywhere. But hey, if you fall for a scam and lose, dunno, 50k dollars, it's not a big deal, huh?
If it wasn't, it wouldn't be sold, moron.
I think more people should be concerned about their privacy, but I don't really agree with this premise. It's kind of like if there were diamonds in some peoples trash, so a company collected everyone's trash so sift through it and take the diamonds to sell. The fact that some people's trash is valuable enough for them to do this, doesn't mean mine is.
That's how these work, they hoover up everything and sell it in bulk. It doesn't mean any given users data is valuable. And that's why so many don't care.
As far as scam calls go, I have a number I have never given to anyone outside immediate family, who I know haven't shared it, and still received scam calls. They just call every number, even if you don't answer. Pretty sure if it rings at all they flag it as potentially active. Sure spreading it around may increase the number, but there's no true way to hide.
Lack of high quality public transit.
"Just drive bro"
I had a discussion/argument in ~2018 with a friend who is/was very anti-trump. I brought up the dangers of ICE and how, at the time, they were the biggest sign of an overtly fascist future. He immediately handwaved it and dismissed me as crazy.
He's got a degree in history education and was obsessed with WW2 history, so I didn't think this would be a point of contention. But for a lot of liberals (including him) Fascists have to literally be wearing a swastika before they're called what they are. Some won't even acknowledge the existence of a Nazi Salute when they see one.
Even today he's obsessed with Trump as the single anomaly in US politics and doesn't see the bigger picture.
A force like ice is necessary though. Unregulated immigration does result in issues in the receiving country;that only works when 2 countries are economically similar. It's their use that's indictive of faciam rather than their existence imo
Eating meat. It contributes 15-20% of the entire planets greenhouse gasses alone. And people do it just for pleasure. It's mindboggling.
people do it just for pleasure
there are other reasons, and pretending there aren't won't help youconvince the people who continue to choose it.
Can you... Provide some of those reasons?
cost, culture, & convenience are the ones I usually refer. gas station hot dogs are cheap and convenient. turning down family recipes put a social strain related to culture. those are two great examples that cover all three. I'm sure you can imagine more: stopping for a fast food burger on your way to protest at the Capitol, etc.
Meat products are, per kilo, much more costly for their nutrient profiles compared with plant based alternatives. Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies. There's a reason third world countries rely on plant based foods, because they're objectively cheaper.
There are many cultural practises that we've left in the past. Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things. I can't say it's my culture to sacrifice children, even if it is.
I'd put convenience under the umbrella of pleasure. If we all lived our life based on convenience, people would drink drive, people wouldn't care about consent, just because it's easier doesn't mean it's right.
If my morality was based on whether it cause friction with my family, what weak morals I would have? "In this house, we say the N word!", "okay yes sorry mum, here I go saying the n word again!" Like, stick up for what's right, don't crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect.
Plant based food is objectively cheaper, culture doesn't permit amoral acts, convenience isn't a valid reason to do wrong, and if mild social pressure from family is enough to cause one to act immoral, then those morals were pretty flimsy to begin with.
Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies.
this doesn't change the fact that, for some, in some situations, it is a better source of calories-per-dollar
none of your arguments will hold water with the lived experience of most people. they don't want to see the disappointment in their grandma's eyes over something they don't believe, themselves, to be a just reason for turning down her cooking. they didn't see a problem with grabbing some food on their way to make the world a better place. your grandstanding is not only ineffective: it comes across as bizarre and unhinged.
just because it’s easier doesn’t mean it’s right.
i didnt say it's right. i said it's a reason people choose meat.
convenience isn’t a valid reason to do wrong
we've been over this: most people don't think it's wrong.
Plant based food is objectively cheaper
sometimes, for some people.
stick up for what’s right, don’t crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect
most people don't think eating meat is morally wrong.
Oh god I didn't even notice I was replying to you.
Gross, you're the worst, most bad faith debater I've ever had the displeasure of talking to.
You don't argue in any sense of data or fact, just shitty little retorts amounting to nothing more than "no, actually".
Don't bother replying, I'm blocking you across all instances until you get an education, maybe when you turn 18 or something.
You don’t argue in any sense of data or fact, just shitty little retorts amounting to nothing more than “no, actually”.
there's no data you've presented to discuss
you’re the worst, most bad faith debater I’ve ever had the displeasure of talking to
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith
I’m blocking you
oh thank god
culture doesn’t permit amoral acts
we've been over this.
Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things.
i think you meant immoral. as it turns out, culture is a great reason to choose amoral actions, and most people think eating meat is amoral.
Some people would look at the oncoming environmental end of civilisation and go "ugh, another VEGAN trying to shove their ideology down my throat"
but i have an extremely rare disease that forces me to eat dead animals, animals do it too, plants feel pain, a vegan was rude to me 10 years ago, and its not like me paying for farmers to kill animals and thus creating a demand for meat means i have a hand in it!!!!!!!!
Legalize cannibalism
What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is not the matter of the state!
What? Meat provide like 90% of my protein intake. What are you suggesting here? Stop living?
Oh yeah, you are doing fine just by eating vegetables. I don't.
And no, I don't eat meat to have pleasure. I eat it to live.
If you have non-meat alternatives that are within your means and provide the same nutritional value, and you still choose to eat meat on purpose, then it is for pleasure. But if you have a specific circumstance that is preventing you from switching to alternatives, then that's a different story.
I'm not disagreeing with you. My mother has been a vegetarian for decades. She suffers from blood pressure problem and constantly has to go see her doctor. Every time it gets worse she has to eat a small amount of meat to boost her nutritional level, but then she always goes back to being a vegetarian.
If it's OK for anyone to have a meatless diet, good. If further more he or she does it to save the planet, even better. But not everyone can do so, so I hope those who can do it stop pointing fingers.
Why doesn't your mother take a vitamin?
Pronouns. Especially bad when a 2SLGBTQIA+ person makes out like its not a big deal.
Its the most simple, base level thing you can do (using correct pronouns for someone etc). Doing it is not a big deal. Its very easy. But if you choose not to, despite how small of a deal it is, then you turn it into a very big deal.
I don’t really care, nor do I see it like a big deal. I’ve done my best in the past, but it’s also easy to say it wrong by accident.
Also, I don’t have the least idea what 2SLGBTQIA+ means, so I need the person to be clear with me what I should say.
I mean, obviously you can't just magically know someone's pronouns. The point is that you try.
Trump getting elected in 2016. “The checks and balances will keep him in line” I was told.
To that I say: go fuck yourself.
I heard a lot of "you survived the first time, it's fine," when he got reelected. Ah yes, that pandemic we all survived. The constant food recalls where none of us got sick. The uptick in gun violence that made all of us so safe and cozy. Not to mention the famously survivable ectopic pregnancies!
No big deal indeed.
For 2025: The aviation crashes and mishaps that are famously no big deal
When looking at firearm homicides specifically, in terms of raw numbers (not rate), the low point was 2014, during Obama's second term. It started to move upwards in '15 and '16, prior to Trump taking office, and continued increasing at the same pace through '17. We see the first real sharp jump in '18, but then an equally sharp decline in '19, back to levels on par with Obama's last year in office, followed the next year by another sharp increase. Interestingly, Biden's 2nd year as president (2022) had the most number of firearm homicides in, I dunno, 30-odd years?
We'd been on a long, downward trend in homicides since '92. It's not clear to me what caused the rate to begin to head back up. I don't think that Obama, Trump, or Biden can realistically be directly blamed for the bulk of it, although a small number of homicides at the margins might be more directly related to them (e.g., Trump encourages racial violence, and so a small number of homicide might be due to his tacit support). I don't think that it's directly related to economics either, because the economy that Obama inherited when he took office in 2009 had been wrecked by the housing bubble crash; it it was directly related to economics, then I would have thought that gun violence would be peaking around '09 or '10. I guess it could be a lagging indicator though? (...But there is a sharp increase in '20, when the pandemic gets really bad and unemployment hits record highs.)
Again, keep in mind that these are homicides, and not suicides. firearm suicides still make up the majority of deaths caused by firearms in the US.
OTOH, I understand what you mean about feeling less safe under Trump, even if there wasn't an immediate spike in gun homicides. I know a lot of people--esp. LGBTQ+ people--are feeling very unsafe with Trump in the White House right now, and I believe that they're right to feel unsafe and at-risk.
Oh hey, I appreciate the info! Seems I misremembered. I actually attempted to double check before posting but kept getting wildly different numbers from different sources.
It's all good. Firearms in general are an autistic special interest. (No, seriously. I'm high-functioning autistic, and guns have been a special interest for, um, a very long time.) I don't expect anyone outside of policy wonks to have hard numbers memorized.
Dog poop in my car. The owner insisted it was not a big deal. I told them zero poop is allowed in my car and made them clean the seat.
Republicans having Senate, House and Presidency.
"Oh it's not a big deal!"
You'll be fucking lucky if you'll still be living in a home at the end of these 4 years, or with a job or living at all.
"Capitalism isn't a big deal."
As though giving a select few billions won't corrupt the nation around them over time.
thats like any conservative or liberal i try to reason with