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I am shocked by this - the quote in below is very concerning:

"However, in 2024, the situation changed: balenaEtcher started sharing the file name of the image and the model of the USB stick with the Balena company and possibly with third parties."

Can't see myself using this software anymore...

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

♬ Hello dd my old friend
I’ve come sudo with you again ♬

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hello cat or cp or pv... Or anything else that works with files

[–] mac@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Huh this is news to me. Wonder why dd has been the defacto standard in guides everywhere for the past 15-20+ years

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[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's interesting, apparently it was mentioned on github but nothing seems to have changed in the end

https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3784

Haven't used that software in a long time but maybe there's an opt-out somewhere during runtime? Although I don't see why a user needs to be required to opt out of nonsense like this when just writing firmware to a USB disk.

Only ever touched balenaEtcher when some project or distro recommended it. Overall prefer Rufus for this sort of thing when working on Windows.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've used Sardu on Windows for making multi-iso bootable USB sticks a long time ago in the past, but I'd admittedly never looked at their ToS or Privacy Policy. My use case was slapping some live boot antivirus scanners, data recovery tools, and one or two lightweight liveboot-Linux ISOs on one USB as a portable toolkit.

When I'm making anything else from Windows, I've always stuck with Rufus. Had never heard of BalenaEtcher before now.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

I"m horrible with names of programs and mess with a lot of junk comps switching out OS's and just tinkering around so I'm always using crazy utility programs. BalenaEtcher is used in a lot of tutorials or guides for installations, I think recently both Elementary OS and even Ubuntu had instructions pointing towards BalenaEtcher.

I never thought it was a great program, it was finicky to use and errors out quickly multiple times. Looking back I saw the signs, weird new program being promoted above other "well established" burn programs, ads, and now scrolling down their webpage it's just a bunch of promotional subscription bullshit. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit looking at the "balenacloud" and "balenasense", like if they're collecting your data through etcher then all of that shit is probably compromised. Another fucking google wannabe corp.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Never understood why you would use anything else. It's in coreutils!!!

[–] timroerstroem@feddit.dk 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

There are people coming from Windows, which does not have dd.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Many won't touch the command line.

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[–] Firnin@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is indeed the best way, but somehow I am still anxious using this command, even after flashing countless USB drives 😅

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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you need a FOSS, cross platform GUI for bootable USB sticks, Raspberry Pi Imager is a really good solution.
It is mainly used to flash SD cards for RPIs, but also you can burn any ISO on any support with it.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I used to use the fedora media writer but the RPi imager software is so easy I switched

[–] PullPantsUnsworn@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is no one aware of Fedora Media Writer? It's FOSS and the most trustworthy ISO burning software in existence. It's only issue is that its named as if it is written only for producing Fedora bootable media. It works for everything.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Sudo dd if=tails.iso of=/dev/sdb

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

bash: Sudo: command not found

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Lol, nice one

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In my early days of Linux, I royally fucked up a USB thumb drive (back when they were expensive) using dd and as a result do not trust myself with it.

I would use Hannah Montana Linux if it was the only GUI option to burn a USB ISO.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i still don't understand why anyone would use etcher. it's an electron wrapper over dd. it's 80MB where rufus is 1.5. when it appeared there were already other programs that did its job better.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Rufus seems to be just for Windows and dd does not have a gui

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[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I like clicking buttons that have a text on them saying what they do instead of trying to memorize a gajillion terminal commands and flags where I have to enter more commands and flags to see what they do.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago

plus it's some some sanity checks like not showing you your system drives. Or warning you when the drive you are about to nuke is suspiciously large and maybe not the usb drive you actually want to use.

This is basically the main feature. Stopping you from fatfingering the wrong drive

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago

On Windows, Rufus is just as easy to use tho. And on Linux, there is Gnome Disks.

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[–] orize@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Friendship ended with Balena

Now Rufus is my new best friend

[–] Meshuggah333 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

did they ever clear up that random unexplained binaries issue?

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[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

I tried belenaEtcher once on my Mac... And it seemed to me more like a spyware than an actual software, I was a bit confused and never used it again.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why use a fancy GUI tool when good old dd does the trick

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

for Windows

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Generally Ventoy is better than both. Choose a dedicated flash storage, flash Ventoy to it, then click and drag as many ISO's as can fit on your drive and you can boot from any one of them at any time.

Much better than Etcher or Rufus, IMO.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who tf is downvoting? Ventoy is the best

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just use dd. It's not that hard. You pass it 2 arguments: if= the file you want to flash, and of= the destination. If you're feeling fancy, pass in some status=progress. And don't forget to prepend it with sudo. That's it.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I just tried this the other day and was unable to boot from the USB. Any chance you could shed some light on what I might have screwed up?

The command was:

dd if=fedora.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M status=progress

The USB stick was not mounted and the fedora image was verified. The command completed successfully but I couldn't boot from it. When I used fedora writer to burn the same image to the same USB stick it booted no problem.

Edit: spelling & capitalization

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[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Linux mint factory USB creator just right click and make bootable.

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yet another reason for people to run a default prompt (deny until prompt answer) firewall.

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[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] utubas@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Ventoy uses several blobs without any instructions of compiling them yourself?

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[–] kaidezee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, if you're using Windows, then you most likely already sent any and all of your secrets to Microsoft anyway. Including that you installed Tails.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (9 children)

what is a good one to use, is there something like rufus on linux

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just use Gnome Disks for convenience over dd.

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[–] mcx808@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Not used it since I discovered this nonsense. Shows how seriously they take security. https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3410

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

i still had issues using 150MB electron based bloated and heavy software instead of rufus, not that it worked for me anyway

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ahh too bad because balenaEtcher just werks for me.

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Doesn't the official guide recommend using GNOME Disk Utility anyway?

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