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[–] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“Blow High” is what I was told, though that had nothing to do with the sharks name ;)

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Blow high" gets really close to the Swedish pronunciation. Or at least the closest that you can get in English.

(English hates long monophthongs so you can't get the same vowel as that [o:] represented by ⟨å⟩ in Swedish. "Blow" has [əʊ̯] or [oʊ̯] depending on the dialect.)

[–] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the info and linking the pronunciation!

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's spelled blahaj because I, like most people, don't have an å (yeah, copied that out of the title) on my keyboard. Unless you want us to write blohaj instead, I guess.

[–] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Technically you should write it blaahaj instead (if writing Norwegian or Danish, that is). Before the adoption of the Swedish å, aa used to be used in Norway and Denmark for the same sound.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

So that's why it looks similar to a or ä. I've always wondered that if it makes an o sound, why doesn't it look like an O.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Historically, 'Å' was an 'A' with an additional 'a' on top. This has evolved into becoming the '°'. Similarly, 'Ä' was an 'A' with an 'e' on top, which evolved into becoming two dots.
Interestingly, these umlauts are treated as extra characters in the Nordics but in German they aren't. That's why Swedish dictionaries are sorted from 'A-Ö' while German ones are 'A-Z'. So in order to find German Ärger or Swedish ängen, you need to look at different spots in the dictionary ('Ä' -> 'Ae' (1st letter of the German alphabet) vs. 'Ä' (28th letter of the Swedish alphabet).

[–] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

Also it sounds more like the vowel group in the word 'awl' than an actual 'o'. Bit tricky to describe, really

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

yeah, ä and æ get transcribed as ae and is a different sound.

Aj kudd traj tu eksplejn itt, bøtt Aj'll dsjøst lett the "æøå" viddijåo du the tåking. År singing, Aj gess.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

Dieser Hai gehört nun der Bundesrepublik Deutschland.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Blouhaai if you're from South Africa.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Blåhaj.

I hold down the 'a' key and you can select it on Gboard. But your point stands, I don't expect everyone to make the effort of finding alternate language options.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Putting 'aa' instead of 'å' should also be fine.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just hold down A!

Holds down A on desktop keyboard aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

TBF on desktop I could install a program (or possibly already have) that does the job, I just never got around to it.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 month ago

I use Unexpected Keyboard for Android and I can easily add the ˚ modificator to my keyboard.

blåhaj.

It's unexpected but pretty convenient!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This isn't Tiktok I don't have to know how to say it right.

This is Lemmy, it's text-based, and technically the domain is "blahaj" because "å" isn't a valid character in URLs.

Finally, grammar and spelling policing sucks.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wrong actually, Unicode URLs have been a thing for quite some time now, including domain names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Internationalized domain names are stored in the Domain Name System (DNS) as ASCII strings using Punycode transcription.

It's a workaround, not actual support.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20995262/12487230

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

Disagree, I think it's actual support.

Who cares about the technical implementation, it works doesn't it? It is fully supported by all modern systems, you type in the Unicode URLs and you see the correct page. Just because it gets converted to some other encoding along the way doesn't mean it's somehow no longer valid. Lots of things get transcoded along the way, nobody cares about that.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Well, the instance is still blahaj regardless of what Unicode URLs can do. So it's correct to skip the å because it's not on the actual current url.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago

Ah, but I named my Blåhaj blahaj because I like to mispronounce it

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

å is more like “aww”, as in “aww, look at the cute shork”

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but if you had to describe it with a single letter I'd pick O.

[–] Blahaj_Blast@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago

Well, now you tell me!

[–] IOMMU@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago

I named mine Blahaj just so I negate any pronunciation issues. Like Data from star trek

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Nah, it's blah-hog. And nobody can convince me otherwise.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But like the o in lot, or roll, or corn, or tailor, or women...?

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[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] innermeerkat@jlai.lu 4 points 1 month ago

They asked if it moans

[–] LGTM@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So is it [bloːhaj]? I was trying to say [bloːhɑj] but [ɑ] feels perhaps odd next to the glide?

Completely an inference from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Swedish so I may have fucked up the phonotactics

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

According to the Wikipedia page the phonetics would be [ˈblôːhaj]

Or as one of my twins says it "Hello hi"

[–] LGTM@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

You sent me down one hell of a rabbit hole 😭 At first I was confused by the tone marker, but it turns out Swedish is a pitch accent language. So that clears things up xd

But before I even got to that, the section on vowels caught my eye. Apparently, /oː/ can be realized as [ɤʷː], [oə] (Central Standard), or [ɔə] (Gotland?). So apparently [blɤ̂ʷːhaj], [bloəhaj], and [blɔəhaj] are all valid realizations of /blôːhaj/ (varying in dialect)? Thankfully BLÅHAJ has no rhotics or i wouldve started getting into the literature

[–] alx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

as a swede what pains me isn't that anglos pronounce it differently, it's that they seem to insist on making shit up rather than just going with the closest approximation in their dialect.
Listening to americans trying to read swedish gives me vertigo, they somehow make it sound more like slovenian or something!

Tony Irving is an immigrant known for his egregious accent, which is much closer to what i'd expect from english natives if they'd stop making up sounds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKCIgpFZLL0

I'm afraid if I pronounce it "Blowhigh" it will come off the same way as being that one person who pronounces "gyro" with a silent g at a greek restaurant. Like it's correct but the exonym seems to already have stuck at this point.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago
[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Hot take: Blahaj is a better pronunciation because it is derpy like our beloved shonk.