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I'd learned about this last week, and this stuff is a bunch of Wikipedia searches so forgive me if I miss anything :]

Similar to git master and whitelist/blacklist having addressed racist origins, I've just learned that "ricing" -- i.e. way-far-from-default, colorfully souped-up *nix customizations -- came from a derogatory word for Asian "riced out" cars.

(click to enlarge spot where I came to learn about this)


Example in the lemmy.ml/c/linux community.

The linked Wikipedia article doesn't list *nix ricing specifically, but it's probably not a far reach -- for example, tech's master-slave came from cars too.


Now I'm not here to start a debate on whether the term itself is bad. The arguments are done to death and predictable (old thread~hope~ ~I~ ~can~ ~link~ ~here~). Rather, I posit that we could probably invent a new term if we forced it hard enough.

For example, 4chan forcibly invented the use of the ok hand for "white power", as a collective prank (Wikipedia).

Further, Tumblr invented 'then beg' as an insult response to 'I beg your pardon/to differ'. (click to enlarge)

Based on Pukicho.

So why can't Lemmy invent something too?

Here are some earlier takes. (click to enlarge for source, but they are listed below anyway)

I surmise it has to be (1) somewhat unique and (2) short and nounable/verbable.

  • Customization doesn't fit -- it's too broad. Changing the wallpaper is a customization -- diagonalizing your screen is a rice (term to be replaced...).
  • Bespoke doesn't fit either. That's for a duct-tape script you hack together.
  • Pimping out... is not a good alternative. It preexists^(citation^ ^needed?)^ and has inertia but it's not any better.
  • Souping up... doesn't roll off the tongue so much. But it's food-related (and thus not far from "rice"). Though I can't see myself saying "Yo, check out this epic soup."

Brainstorming welcome :P

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Personally I'd put a higher priority on stamping out that use of "porn".

[–] thingsiplay 17 points 1 month ago

Agreed. This term "unixporn" bugs me. I cannot recommend those platforms to anyone, because of the direct use of "porn" term. Its like kiddies made up the term unixporn or something...

[–] fool@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago

LOL yeah that's a nice thing to put in the company search history

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I removed this because it has nothing to do with linux specifically, and as expected, it brought out a lot of people defending the use of this historically racist term, and /asablackman'ing it.

I've reinstated it and removed the offending comments for now.

Also I don't know why this needs a discussion at all. There's hundreds of words in english for something that looks good, and you can be more specific about it : snazzy, sleek, cool, streamlined, nifty, retro

[–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

removed the offending comments

In one of which an Asian dude literally says it's not used as a derogatory anymore. Talk about being offended for others

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

An stranger on the internet just gave you license to say a historically racist term, how convenient for you. Next they'll be some /r/asablackman posters saying its okay for you to use the n-word, because it doesn't bother them.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah but it doesn't affect me and I'm fine with using a racist term because I choose not to think about it. That should make it fine for everyone.

I'm not racist I'm just so tired of all this anti-racist stuff @john89@lemmy.ca

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Isn't it the same as tuning?

Although it's unclear what tuning is because it depends on who says it:

  • It does mean doing modifications to a vehicle for actual performance improvements
  • It's used extensively by ricers to describe themselves and their hobby and they think it's a positive term
  • It's used extensively by people who dislike ricing and most definitely as a derogatory term

Yet for all its faults, I believe that's the closest word to ricing you'll find that is universally understood, neutral and isn't rendered hopelessly bland and meaningless by the process of political correctness newspeak.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This will and probably has got a bunch of flak but I'm with you. There's nothing wrong with recognising when we can pick a better term for something we enjoy.

Like, I get why people use "-porn" as a suffix and it isn't offensive to me but I still won't use that in a workplace. It'd be cool if someone thought of a better neologism!

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Please report posts & comments that make use of the term on lemmy.ml; we remove them.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Oh god, this stuff is so tiring.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Here I am, an Asian, reclaim it to be neutral meaning. I will still use ricing.

Go check any English Asia Linux Group, especially on YouTube and Facebook Group, people are using ricing neutrally.

Language change with time, and making it neutral is totally fine and okay.

What you're doing here is just yet another instance of Westerner forcing "correct English," not realizing English is a global language and can develop independently outside US, Canada, or Europe.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This comment shouldn't have been removed.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

lol even funnier that this western-centric Lemmy removed my comment about ricing, while actual Linux community CJK countries or English Asia does not recognize it as a slur and use ricing neutrally. Basically reclaims it.

White knight syndrome so much.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

Spice/spiced could work. But it's still an allusion, not sure if that defeats the point.

For example, 4chan forcibly invented the use of the ok hand for “white power”, as a collective prank

Which, outside of specific contexts where you're already confident someone is a WN, was quickly forgotten and never really took off. It's not a great example of a social shift.

[–] sntx@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can't people refer to it as their personalized setups? Or is that too hard to write?

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but that's missing the flair required by people who spend their evenings adjusting the radial blur on the window borders.

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ricing isn't exactly the same as personalized though.

Ricing when it comes to cars is putting on a giant wing and a huge muffler on a Honda Civic.

Ricing in the Gentoo community is turning on every compiler optimization flag for the main portage config file without knowing what they're doing, potentially actually de-optimizing your setup.

There's an element of "overdone" involved usually whenever someone is called a ricer.

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

I've always used decked regarding to it.

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago

I'm calling it giving the dirstro top surgery from now on

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

This is a tough one, because to me "ricing" or "riced out" carries additional negative undertones (racism aside). I have always heard it used in a way implying that it was referencing enhancements done in a cheap or gaudy/classless way. Think of the most Razer-like LED adorned gaming PC setup, that could have easily been described as being "riced up".

I think the phrase "decked out" works OK, and seems to also lack the negative connotation, which may or not be in line with the goal here.

Also, seeing your example ideas you shot down, I am not sure you full understand "souping up" phrase. The term "souped up" has been in use for over a century and I still hear people use it pretty frequently. It is generally meant to imply something has been made faster or more powerful, frequently with cars, and probably why some people argue it is a shortened version of supercharged. I agree that it probably isn't a good fit here, but not being of how it sounds.

[–] fu@libranet.de 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Originally it was a pejorative term for Japanese and East-Asian car modders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner Than the term moved from car modding subculture to computer UI modding subculture.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

The origins are in reference to asian-americans customizing their cars as "ricing" them.

[–] fool@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The old thread about it covers both sides of the coin.

Basically, "ricing" insulted weird Asian car customizations -> "ricing" became a more generic "weird" customization term (this is the most famous transitive example I can think of) -> ricing's origin was forgotten by a decent amount of people. (I mentioned it in the first spoilered text)

But I'd like to keep the focus on yoloing a term out of nowhere :D

[–] fu@libranet.de 4 points 1 month ago

@fool so it's racist because we of Asian descent tend to eat rice? Are other Asians asking automobile enthusiasts not to use this or is it basic white girl stuff?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Customization is good!

[–] fratermus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

Saw the .de domain and my first thought was this was about using a potato ricer to make spätzle. I may not be normal.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Customizing the shit out of

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[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I thought about "decked out", though then people would say "look at my deck", potentially creating ambiguity between card games and spiffy desktops.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And extra ambiguity with people talking about polishing their deck while also pronouncing it as dick

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry about it, nobody says that any more. It died out with Gentoo.

[–] fool@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, Gentoo is alive! I can catch up to upstream Firefox's LTO+Clang+PGO optimizations and use my own version of Debian alternatives and save 3MB by removing iso9660 support from REFind!

It seems pretty alive to me though. 5/25 of the month-top-posts in r/unixporn have it in the title, and I'm sure more are present in the comments. And a lot of YT videos on it still mention it.

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[–] daytonah@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Interface tailoring, desktop tapestry, jamming all up in my pazaaz.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

Zhush/zhoosh could work - I don't think the word is commonly used enough that it would get confusing.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago
[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

eye-rolling

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't rice our Linux distros or cars because of woke

Jokes aside, RICE means "Race-inspired cosmetic enhancement" apparently

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Creating a backronym for a term doesn’t absolve it of its racist roots.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You just sent me a wikipedia article about a car on a thread about linux customisation

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, because that is origin of the term. It came from Japanese motorcycle & car customization.

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[–] thingsiplay 4 points 1 month ago

The only insult I know of this "ricing" term is, that its meant to be pretty only without performance. This comes from ricing Japanese cars. It is not racist and has nothing to do with Japanese people. The insult has nothing to do with that.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago
[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

maybe something derived from dekotora? it has most of the same associations as the term we're looking to replace while not having racist or pejorative origins. deko?

[–] 098qwelkjzxc@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need to make it offensive to white people instead. So colonising.

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i don't think we ought to be implying that colonization is cool.

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