this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Generally very radical vegans also have a right to their own community, however I also think there should be spaces for less radical veganism as well. It seems that currently there's none of those available, or maybe the general hostility of social media against vegans makes any of their more tolerant spaces eventually close ranks to protect their sanity. Unfortunately vegan spaces are constantly brigaded by trolls so it's understandable they have a very short fuse, and a lot of people get caught in the cross-fire.

I think the only solution here would be for a new vegan community with a focus on debate with non-vegans. However it will be tricky to find the right moderators for it who either won't be non-vegans themselves and therefore support a flood of concern-trolls and bad faith arguments, or be vegans that won't get immediately burnt out.

[–] Arcanepotato@vegantheoryclub.org 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So, last time people were mad that vegans were mean to them this community got created:

https://lemmy.world/c/plantbased

Edit: I should finish my coffee before posting, the only post there literally points to this more active com lol: https://lemmy.world/c/plantbased@lemmy.dbzer0.com

See: https://lemmy.world/post/23634881

We all know r/vegan exists and is a cesspit of carnists, but there doesn't seem to be an actual demand for a 'plant based' space. I'm not sure why people would post about something they are kind of meh and not committed to?

If people are interested in just the food, there are communities for that:

I really don't think the rules there are onerous. Just don't talk about abusing animals and don't be a jerk to the other posters and you're good?

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, I didn’t make plantbased to be a less committed version to veganism. I made it because from reddit to lemmy every vegan community I’ve encountered has power tripping toxic mods and I wanted to provide an alternative space.

I’m fully committed to my veganism. But I also wanted people who aren’t to be able to discuss it without being attacked.

After I wrote this I see you’re writing from a vegan instance. I have less experience with there versus vegan communities around here.

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[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I (a vegan) got banned from there for finding the love of cows cloying. I said we shouldn't have to pretend cows are cute to convince others not to kill and eat them.

It really isn't a place for even back and forth amongst friends, "no conversation - only agreement"

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think cows are adorable (in a positive manner :D) but yes, completely agree. Being a vegan shouldn't require that you passionately love being in contact with all kinds of species. I mean - despite them playing a role in the ecosystem - who loves ticks or mosquitoes?

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Another day, another ~~diet~~ vegan/carnivore drama

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 24 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Veganism isn't a diet, it is a social justice movement for animal rights.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The vegan Community is actually quite shit. They don't hesitate to delete your comment just because you aren't a vegan, even if you agree with them in certain points.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

There's a word that describes communities like that, echochambers.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean what level of vegan are you? Do you eat anything that casts a shadow?

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

PTB for sure, they're removing comments not 100% in support of them which is iffy, but now they are trying to decide that people aren't real vegans because they don't agree with the mods, WTF?!?

Also is it just me or does this mod seem like they might be an Alt of Beaver (a previous mod of the Vegan community who was removed from the community for power-tripping) was known for making alts and trying to sneak herself back in as mod a few times with her alts, as well as fostering ill will towards the mod who removed her using her alt accounts. She ultimately deleted her accounts after being called out for the behavior and when these tactics weren't working.

@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world Maybe you might want to look into this, it's very possible the person who was power-tripping before was somehow able to get back in as a mod on an alt account without you or other mods knowing it was them.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Lemmy vegans are a never ending source of entertainment, aren't they?

Also, I had a quick look through the community, and it's mostly one person posting, with a big chunk of their posts attracting zero comments.

Very strange.

[–] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Resolution is fine your peoples ~~client~~ instance is just trash

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is why plantbased was made recently

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