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I'm looking for a BIFL (or at least last me for a while) music player that can play .wav files, has a lot of storage, is portable, and the parts are able to be replaced/upgraded. I've heard about using iPod classics but it seems like they're unable to play .wav files. Any reccomendations?

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[–] cirdanlunae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you replace the firmware on an iPod classic with Rockbox, it supports wav out of the box!

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 14 points 1 month ago

That’s cool but uh… that’s pretty far from out of the box.

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why wav, out of curiosity?

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I assume they want full quality audio but don't know that flac exists

[–] zagaberoo 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I once had a debate with my audiophile uncle about how lossless compression results in identical inputs to the DAC, but he clung to the illusory superiority of WAV.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

"okay. all i hear is words. i know the WAVs work and i like how they sound. can you please just make the WAVs work?"

[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

I can see someone not caring about the wasted space in 2024, but does WAV have the ability to store ReplayGain tags?

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm aware of flac, but I've had issues with compatibility that I don't have with wav files.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What type of issues? Did you get error messages?

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lotta times in file players it'll say unregonized file type

[–] dan@upvote.au 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which players? FLAC has been around for over 20 years, so players that don't recognize it probably need to be updated :D

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apple music, Protools, Logic (although those two are DAWs), VLC

[–] sopo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Weird that VLC is not playing FLACs for you, is that on iOS?

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Pretty excited to see mine show up in checks notes march of next year.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Without running afoul of the BIFL ethos, I wonder why you can't just use your smartphone?

No smartphones are BIFL, but you're always going to have one, and even if you insist on WAV instead of MP3 or FLAC, you can still fit a pretty big music collection in local storage.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No headphone jack, and I want a dedicated device so I'm not as reliant on my phone.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a OnePlus Nord w/a headphone jack, use Musicolet player, have SD card that supports up to 2TB if I remember correctly (I'm using a smaller card right now). Supports wav & flac (which is what I use). It's a great player, and sometimes I use it as a phone. :)

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope you meant 2TB not 2GB

[–] Zier@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Fixed. Yes I did.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No headphone jack

This doesn't address the phone reliance bit, but you can stick a passthrough USB-C audio interface on the end of your headphones cable.

Stuff like this:

https://www.amazon.com/JacobsParts-Headphone-Charging-Passthrough-Converter/dp/B09HJQJSWY

Then you don't tie up your USB-C jack.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ooh, nice. I didn't realize those exist. Is there any impact on audio quality?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, absent some kind of sample rate conversion that I wouldn't expect running into, the audio is identical from a digital standpoint, so up until the point where it sees analog conversion, no.

Once you convert it to analog...I mean, it's a DAC. Could be better or worse than a DAC built into your phone. Nothing intrinsically requires one be better than the other.

I had a phone with a headphones jack, some time back, that had poor power regulation on its internal DAC. If I was charging my phone in my car while playing back music, noise leaked into the audio. I wound up getting a tiny Bluetooth receiver with its own DAC and plugging that into the car's auxiliary audio input to avoid that. That phone didn't have a great DAC.

But I'm sure that you can also make a USB-C audio interface with a bad DAC. I have a USB-powered analog mixer that also lets a noticeable amount of noise in when plugged into my USB hub. I put it on a dedicated USB power supply to reduce that.

As far as I know, nobody's tried rounding up a bunch of USB-powered DACs, feeding them dirty power, and measuring the amount of noise that comes out of them, so... shrug Probably have to try one and see how that one compares.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Hmmm, I've been wanting something similar but haven't had any luck finding new good options (closest bring those premium expensive Sony's, but not repairable). It never occurred to me until now, I could probably just build one using a Pi Zero or something similar