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[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 days ago

Bullshit. All you need is to scrape together a measley $7 trillion dollars and throw it at Sam Altman.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

LLMs are quite impressive as chatbots all things considered. The conversations with them are way more realistic and almost as funny as the ones with the IRC markov chain my friend made as a freshman CS student.

Of course, out bot's training data only included the IRC channel's logs of a few years and the Finnish Bible we later threw in for shits and giggles. A training set of approximately zero terabytes in total.

LLMs are less a marvel of machine learning algorithms (though I admit they might play a part) and more one of data scraping. Based on their claims, they have already dug through the vast majority of publicly accessible world wide web, so where do you go from there? Sure, there are a lot of books that are not on the web, but feeding them in the machine is about as hard as getting them on the web to begin with.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Senior year of college, I took an elective seminar on interactive fiction. For the final project, one of my classmates wrote a program that scraped a LiveJournal and converted it into a text adventure game.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)
You are standing in an open field west of a
giant castle, with an ornate front door.
Your name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way.
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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago

DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR there's a weird sex scene inside I guarantee it

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 6 days ago

My own final project was a parody of the IMDb that was "what if the IMDb was about books instead of movies", except that the user reviews told stories about people who turned out to have all gone to high school together before scattering around the world, and reading them in the right sequence unlocked a finale in which they reunited for a New Year's party and their world dissolved so that their author could repurpose them for other stories.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 6 days ago

fuck yes, why wasn’t my college this cool? all I got was an AI elective taught by a guy whose proudest achievement was having the only remaining Genera license on campus

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Admit" is a strong word, I'd go for "desperately attempt to deny".

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

That's the closest you'll ever get to an admission from a corporate mouthpiece though.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I am a firm realist. I'd like to point out two things.

There are two sides: the anti-corpo leftists of Lemmy, and the hyper "where do we sign" neo liberals of reddit.

Lemmy Leftists are sure Google will literally just evaporate tomorrow, and the neo liberals are sure that the singularity has already happened and will be revealed for Christmas.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Google literally cannot evaporate, and they are also probably struggling to improve their models. They will probably find ways to slowly improve them over time, at a reasonable rate.

Edit - 😅 I'm at least happy I created something fun. You guys are great, enjoy lol

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I am a firm realist. There are two sides: the anti-corpo leftists of Blade II, and the hyper “where do we sign” neo liberals of Battlefield Earth.

Blade II Leftists are sure nighttime is literally just yellow color grading except when it’s blue or they forget to do it at all, and the neo liberals are sure that you tilt the camera and the more you tilt the camera the better the movie is.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. John Travolta literally cannot evaporate, and he is also probably struggling to improve his filmmaking. He will probably find ways to do both fucked up color grading and what he thinks are Dutch angles, but in a more subtle way.

And then Del Toro will probably send him a box of shit or live bees for Christmas.

[–] self@awful.systems 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I am a firm realist. I’d like to point out two things.

There are two sides: the anti-corpo leftists of Del Taco, and the hyper “where do we sign” neo liberals of Taco Bell.

Del Taco Leftists are sure Taco Bell will literally just evaporate tomorrow, and the neo liberals are sure that the secret menu has already happened and will be revealed for Taco Tuesday.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Taco Bell literally cannot evaporate, and they are also probably struggling to design a burrito that doesn’t fucking suck. They will probably find ways to distract you with churro bites instead, as a reasonable fast food chain would.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 16 points 6 days ago

"I was somewhere in the middle of your mother last night, Trebek!"

[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 6 days ago

I can’t stop, it’s like eating potato chips, and as a firm realist. I’d like to point out two things.

There are two sides: the anti-corpo leftists who eat Pringles, and the hyper “where do we sign” neo liberals who prefer doritos.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 6 days ago

goddammit now I want a taco, and there's no great options near me

curse you, average of extremes!

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I pass the crown of firmist realist on to you

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago

I hereby vow to be extremely firm and extremely realistic

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I am a film realist

it was right there

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

fucking… maybe if I edit it in nobody will notice

maybe they’ll pay even more for the director’s cut

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they'll pay twice as much!

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@self@awful.systems I would like to report a bug. Sometimes reading, interacting with, or posting a comment costs several times as much as it does other times. Posting this comment was exactly one million times as expensive as the median of my other comments and reading it will cost as much. Please try and equalize the cost of using this free site so I can continue to afford alcohol.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 5 days ago

finally my pyramid scheme is coming to fruition

sneerchain, coming soon to an awful system near you

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I am an anti-corpo leftists of Lemmy. I'd like to point out one thing.

We are sure Google will just evaporate tomorrow.

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

As a fellow leftist, I don't think it will happen on the week end, give it 'till Monday.

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

this is leftist infighting between Mondayists and Tomorrow-Evaporists and I won’t allow it in this space

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What are you gonna do about it, fight me?

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what kind of leftist would I be if I didn’t?

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And so three new Lemmy instances were born.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

lemmy.ml
lemmy.ml2
2lemmy.2ml

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

goodlemmy.ml
peoplesfrontoflemmy.ml
shitlemmymlsays.space
lemmy.ac
philthy.ml
lemmymali.org

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

hmm so I guess mali is the next to be screwed by tld hype bullshit

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh no you misunderstand. Tankies are hijacking the country code anti-imperialistly.

[–] megaman@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

4:45pm friday news cycle

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

You're both wrong. It'll be more of an evisceration than evaporation.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 6 days ago

I am an Ed Zitron reader. Do you think I'm a The New Norm serial villain? Google evaporated in 2019

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 6 days ago

Was having trouble understanding this so I translated it through a couple LLMs, it just cost me a few cubic meters of water:

I am very smart. I’d like to point out one thing. Everyone other than me is stupid. Herpa derpa derpa derp.