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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

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Yesterday, an unexpected admin post was made announcing that hexbear would be shutting down and recreating two of their most popular communities (a): the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank. For those who are not aware, those two are some of the most notorious comms in the threadiverse which routinely cause inter-lemmy drama (disclaimer, the deteriorating relations between our instance and hexbear and my own ban from hexbear was ultimately triggered by various posts in the_dunk_tank)

The stated reason was to promote more thoughtful discussions and to prevent a white cishet mindset which was apparently promoted by the content in those comms, according to the mods and admins.

Within a day 1.3 thousand comments were made with hexbear regulars upset at this decision and discussing within.

However, before this announcement, the top admin of hexbear posted in the cross-lemmy admin matrix chat urging other admins to close down their "drama communities" as well.

Hexbears caught wind of this and quickly accused the admin of duplicity, and having other motives instead of their stated ones. The admin in question as defense admitted that it was their attempt to manipulate other lemmy instance admins and it backfired on them

After a whole day of this, the main admin decided to step away from hexbear (a) , followed by more resignations (a)

In the midst of this, people realize another old-mod had recently come back after a 3-year hiatus, and now people start suspecting some correlation. That mod makes a public post (a) before shortly after deleting their account.

There's also smaller pieces of chaos ongoing, such as one admin, banning one of their alts "as a bit" using wording that they were not aware is misgendering ("fella") which caused other hexbears to pile on. Eventually that was resolved, and admins are asked to tone down the "bit doing" during this heated period.

This "struggle session" is still ongoing, with people are asking the resigned mod to come back , and other admins unbanning accounts which were getting banned left and right(a) but it seems those popular comms still remain shut down.

EDIT: Even lemmygrad is wondering what the hell is going on

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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don't know enough about Hexbear, my interactions with them in the communities I go to have been overwhelmingly positive. But I recognise the toxicity elsewhere. That said, the moderators and admins here were clearly on the right side and tried to make positive changes. It's a shame there's opposition to that.

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[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To this day, the only instance I have in my blocked list.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

I have others blocked, only a couple because of bad user or mod behavior. Most haven't done anything wrong, they're just in languages I don't speak and it was filling my feed with posts I couldn't read, lol.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 14 points 5 days ago
[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago

Asking resigned mod to come back.

134 votes. 😳

[–] socsa@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago

The election is over so it's obviously time for an instance wide reorg.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Those people could really get some hobbies

Like imagine sperging online about communism 24/7

It’s actually incredibly sad that these people have nothing better to do with their lives. I pity them and hope they get well at some point

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I got curious and read a couple of the threads. I think they are mentally ill. In my brief interactions with them, they called me a liberal and sent me threats of violence, and didn't want to hear about reasons why Biden was good. Fair enough. This whole mess sounds for all the world like an LLM hallucinating a deranged exaggerated caricature of a far-left community.

I can't even make sense of it. An admin went on an alt account, and banned their own main account, and then everyone got really mad about that, because they were being transphobic when they sent a message to their other account, and now they're saying the whole thing was a "bit," and the site has too many male users, and there are a whole bunch of people who got banned somehow that they're now unbanning, and also they're tightening up their policy about bigotry and apologizing because they blamed the whole thing in the end on the males, and that explanation would imply there's a difference between men and women, which they can't do. It was a struggle session. I am not making any of that up.

As far as I can tell, there is no problem at all and never was, and they managed to create a massive problem. It's like someone was walking down the street, and somehow fell down, and all of a sudden their leg fell off. I did learn some new words, though.

Bioessentialist.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t even want to know what the heck all that means or is about. It sounds like a caricature for real. I try to focus on non fiction things in the real world. I simply don’t remember any of these childish discussions being applicable in my life despite theoretically being the primary target audience.

There’s a limit for insufferableness and chronically online tankies are way past it

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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 7 points 5 days ago

Aww, man! This is the first time I wish had not blocked carcosa on matrix!

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[–] Akuji@leminal.space 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I already thought they had one of the most "redditesque" userbase of Lemmy. The mods and admins being on par for the course isn't surprising. Also, with the lack of trust in their users displayed here, it seems like they reject the monster they've created...

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[–] K4mpfie@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What in the Open-source-Zuckerberg-hating hell is the "Threadiverse"?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Portmanteau of "Threaded" and "Fediverse" (which is itself a portmanteau of "Federated Universe"). Effectively "Threaded discussions Fediverse".

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

But why rebrand it? It already was the Fediverse. Just because Meta decided to start its own instance, we're now rebranding it for them? Fuck that. Threads is not even playing by the same rules. They basically just took the activity pub protocol and made their own closed source clone.

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[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

I wanted to post this in there but ofc I'm banned, so I'll do it here :

Go woke, go broke

/s

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The revolution will not be televised.

We need a worker ran instance where every user gets to vote on reports.

Or even better; every user should have admin rights.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 6 points 4 days ago

Sounds like an experiment from a Fallout vault. Interesting, but it would likely devolve into a single person using a macro to auto ban every other admin besides themselves or their pals.

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