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Democrats should have listened to Bernie Sanders, historians say (www.newsweek.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/21778444

Summary

Historians suggest Democrats might have fared better against Donald Trump by embracing the economic issues championed by Senator Bernie Sanders, who has long pushed for a focus on “bread-and-butter” concerns for working-class voters.

Despite Kamala Harris’s progressive policies, polls showed Trump was favored on economic issues, particularly among working-class and Hispanic voters.

Historian Leah Wright Rigueur argued that Sanders’ messaging on economic struggles could be key for future Democratic strategies.

Sanders himself criticized the party for “abandoning” the working class, which he said has led to a loss of support across racial lines.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This assumes that Democrats want to win at any cost. Listening to Sanders is a bridge too far.

Democrats would rather lose than do even the most tepid social democratic reformism.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's why refusing to vote isn't an effective strategy for changing the democrats. They don't care. Non voters are just murdering trans people to make a point that they won't listen to.

[–] Didros 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The people who kill are not those who refuse to vote. It's those that vote to kill.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Allowing someone to be killed through deliberate inaction is the same as killing them. You're responsible for the actions you chose not to take.

[–] Didros 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You've killed thousands if that is true. You could have said something to prevent a suicide, you could have spared a dollar to save a homeless person who froze that night. You are a mass murderer if you really think that. It's a sad way to live.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure you saw the word "deliberate"?

[–] Didros 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How are my examples not deliberate?

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Drag did say all drag could to prevent a suicide whenever one of drag's friends was down. And it worked, none of drag's friends are dead yet.

[–] Didros 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you deliberately only assist those you consider "a friend"?

We really don't need to keep dragging this out. My point is simply that voting for the "lesser evil" is not morally superior to voting for your ideal candidate or protest voting. And fighting for an actually left movement to take power benefits us all.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Drag has helped plenty of acquaintances too, and they were all alive last drag saw them, but many dozens, drag has no way of knowing. The vast majority of people drag has ever met, drag will never see again.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Did you even volunteer for Harris or donate to her campaign? 🙄

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

It is difficult to get a campaign strategist to understand something when their ~~grift~~ career path depends upon them not understanding it. — Upton Sinclair, probably

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i would vote for bernie in 2028 over newsome.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Love the guy (even if he seeks to save capitalism from itself, not replace it) but he is old.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

When good ol' Capt. Obvious feels like being a redundant dickcheese: