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Context

The main arguments for people to defederate are

  • "Embrace, extend, and extinguish" strategy: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
  • A potential federation with Threads (should Thread decide to implement it) would overwhelm Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed with millions of users (compared to the 40k monthly current active users), transforming those platforms into a threaded version of Facebook
  • Defederating preventively costs nothing

LW stance: https://lemmy.world/post/1274909?scrollToComments=true

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[–] Five@slrpnk.net 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Threads.net federation status on major Lemmy instances based on blocklist info:

Also, in memoriam:

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 16 points 15 hours ago

At the moment, it is more a gesture of support for our micro-blogging cousins but still...

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 21 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Hexbear? EW.

Also they don't actually federate anything, especially not with Lemmy as federation with Lemmy is fucked up even with mastodon, misskey and basically all the other services. Kbin was the only somewhat working other service, but from what I've seen its abandoned.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I came here to tell you that !art@hexbear.net is actually quite nice. I was going to say, by the way, that I also went there to talk with them about politics recently, got about the reaction you'd expect, and peaced out, but as long as you don't do that, you can enjoy the nice artwork.

And then, I realized that I haven't seen any of the art for a few days.

Yep! My whole instance is defederated, I think. I wrote a total of five messages.

I think they're a little thin-skinned lol.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Absolutely not worth it and I'm staying in my savespace they defederated. We are better.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They told me to tell you, "The bloodthirsty liberal lanyard status quo warriors aren’t inviting Hexbears to the wine cave. What a loss."

They also threatened to stab me with an icepick. Why not an ice axe? That would have some history behind it.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 6 points 15 hours ago

Can you tell them they should keep themselves save from me please.

Also they defeated my instance, because they are right wing idiots larping as left wing and they can't stand anime.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure LW is trying to be Threads, or at least grow into some version of it. Why is, as you said, a mystery.

https://fedihosting.foundation/lw-team/#org-chart

[–] ReversalHatchery 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

how is that chart being built?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's made with Mermaid.

If you mean what decision process is behind it, or what the point is, I couldn't tell you. It just looks weird and alarming to me.

There's no money. And it's not the right way to build a strong and successful community. So why, then, are they doing things in this fashion? The longer you look, the weirder it gets.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It just looks weird and alarming to me.

It looks like we haven't put enough effort into naming things here, at least to me.

Tech Team Spiffy

May need work.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

At the end of the day, any team that's trying to accomplish a technological task needs:

  • Sysop
  • Genius
  • Head Slapper
  • Business Guy

As long as you've got those four roles covered, you're probably good. You can have other people assisting, but if any of those isn't covered, you're in trouble.

It looks to me like LW has the first one covered and none of the other three. Their system administration team, whatever else is going on with the place, is killing it.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Can you have one person cover two roles? Could you have a head-slapping genius?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 12 hours ago

Yes, although it's usually safer to let one person specialize in each. If you try to cross the streams, you can introduce instability. Your head-slapping genius can turn into a megalomaniac over time and drive everyone off the project. Your genius business guy can turn out to be an absolute loony, and persuade everyone to work on a project that makes no sense and will never work. It's better if everyone picks a lane.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 13 hours ago

Tech Team Baldrick

Result!

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Thread does not currently federate with link aggregators (Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed)

It federates with MBin, recently Fedia defederated Threads, but before that I could follow and interact with Threads accounts, and it actually worked

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago

Thanks for the clarification

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

We gotta avoid meta collecting data on the users of the fediverse.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no, imagine someone being able to see data that you publicly posted on the internet!

[–] scott@authorship.studio 1 points 3 hours ago

@xigoi The horror!!!!

[–] ReversalHatchery 4 points 13 hours ago

Question if that's possible, especially if they really start a search engine, but yeah at least do not hand over the data on a golden plate

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 1 points 12 hours ago

So if Meta continues to share defederated without acknowledgement from the source, wouldn’t that just put lemmy and mastodan on top?

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Dang it I was on lemmy.wtf and that one has been down for days now. Now you’re telling me this one will get flooded with “tweets”? Do I have to pack up my shit again? We’ll see how bad it will get.

Edit: it’s up again. It is too unreliable though.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmings.world defederates threads: https://lemmings.world/instances

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Ah, great misread my instance 😄