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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

MacBook Air club represent!

[–] Loucypher@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

noice! I guess you had to setup the wifi drivers while connected on ethernet, right?

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure if it's e-waste. The CPU should be decent enough for movies and office tasks.

[–] Loucypher@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if you wanted to run macOS on this then yes, it would definitely be ewaste

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I personally don't share the same definition of e-waste. Having to install Linux, a custom ROM or modded software to make the machine fully usable doesn't make it complete e-waste imo. Conputer users should have technical knowledge to do stuff like that.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's the point. Most users don't know how to do that, can't be bothered to learn, so this laptop would have been e-waste under most other circumstances.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think their confusion comes from OPs title.

Why is it "e-waste go brrrrrrr" when OP is presumably saying they're keeping this laptop out of the machine? _ machine go brr is a dumb meme in the first place, people using it the wrong way makes it even dumberer.

[–] DarkSpoon@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I assumed he picked it up from e-waste

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[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

My parents (who are nearly 70-year-old computer users, by the way, and threw away their 2010 Apple laptop in 2015 because it essentially stopped functioning) absolutely don't have the technical knowledge to do something like this. I think you may be vastly overestimating the average user.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Conputer users should have technical knowledge to do stuff like that.

It's not the 80s anymore. Normies are using computers now.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is pretty unfortunate tbh.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

Happens. Cars used to need special skills to even get started and drive around. Now a five year old can start one and drive off if they can reach the pedals. But they won't have any clue how it actually works.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

Tell that to corporate

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

i've only owned one macbook in my life and it too came from the e-waste bin and it worked well for about 5 years.

that's also where i got a lot of hardware that i still use to this day.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is there anything that doesn't run linux lol?

How many hoops (if any) did you have to jump through to install?

[–] Loucypher@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

none my dude, it installs just like it would install on a windows machine. the CPU is just a basic intel i7. It would be a different story if this was one of the newest M1x macs...

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone got Linux to run on an Intel 4004. It does take over a week to boot though. As long as you can connect a sufficient amount of memory to a CPU, it can boot Linux. If the CPU doesn't support Linux, it can emulate a CPU that does.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh pretty cool!

[–] IrritableOcelot 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago

(Sobs in Brave Little Toaster noises)

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been running Mint and Debian on old hardware too. A Macbook Air 2011 and one from 2015, and a Mac Mini 2014. Mint works great on them AS LONG AS you have at least 4 GB of RAM, especially since it can install the broadcomm wifi driver. Lots of screenshots and images from them here: https://mastodon.social/@eugenialoli/media

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

old hardware [...] at least 4 GB of RAM,

Not that old then...

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

The oldest I have is from 2009. It's quite old. It came with 4 GB of RAM. That's how I was buying computers back then, with enough ram. We have to go back to 2006 to find me buying a computer with 2 GB of RAM. I got my lesson in 1995, shortly after having bought my first PC, a 486DX/40 with 4 MB of RAM. 6 months later Windows95 came out, and I couldn't run it, it needed a minimum of 8 MB. It was swapping like hell. So I got my lesson early on. Now, I buy new laptops or computers with minimum of 32 GB of RAM.

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[–] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just replaced the battery in my wife's 2013 mbp. macos runs like absolute shit on it, so i'm excited to flash linux. I like fedora but thinking i'll start with LDME

[–] Loucypher@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fedora might run well but LMDE will 100%

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Debian will run on anything

[–] Templa 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I really wish I could install Linux on my old iPad :(

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[–] panosalevropoulos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I recently flashed Mint on a MacBook Air 2012, but WiFi is really unstable and slow. Probably a driver issue. I had worse luck with Debian and Fedora.

[–] ADandHD@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Had the same issue on MacBook pro 2012. Solution for me was to use broadcom-wl-dkms in case that might help you as well

[–] Loucypher@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

did not test with classic Mint but LMDE has been rock solid with WiFi

[–] glowie@h4x0r.host 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

The best feeling ever!

[–] binarybomb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Intel MacBooks have pretty great Linux support.

[–] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I tried it but I got tired of overheating and constant fan spinning, I tried to go the vanilla route then with mbfan (or whatever it's called) and I was never able to reproduce a level of quietness comparable to MacOS so I went back.

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[–] Loucypher@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

a simple install of the good old LMDE, everything worked FLAWLESSLY out of the box. It runs even smoother than vanilla Debian

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you have to do any special configuration, or was it a seamless installation just like a non-mac laptop?

[–] Loucypher@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it was exactly flashing a windows laptop, no difference whatsoever :)

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't realize it was like that. I'll have to re-visit my Mom's Macbook

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As another user pointed out, the ones with Intel chips work well ie older models (idk the details as I don't use Apple products)

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

I know she doesn't have the "M" chip, so I'd guess it's an Intel

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That awful magsafe adapter design with no strain relief grinds my gears.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I still don’t know how people manage to fray those things. I used my 2013 for 10 yrs and the cable is still like new. They’re built pretty well. However, I do appreciate that the new ones are just usbc cables that plug into the brick so you can swap the cable if it does start to wear. Or so you can use MagSafe cables on non-apple power supplies.

[–] zagaberoo 5 points 2 weeks ago

Plus you can plug the mac into itself for free charging.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

You should get the Pantheon desktop environment for a more Mac like experience.

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