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Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) for people who want to record, edit, mix and master audio and MIDI projects. When you need complete control over your tools, when the limitations of other designs get in the way, when you plan to spend hours or days working on a session, Ardour is there to make things work the way you want them to.

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[–] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not seen this before, looks like Audacious on steroids. A bit like Photoshop vs MS Paint.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

There is a YouTube channel called "TekSyndicate". The dude wants to switch to Linux so bad, but he always complains about the lack of professional software to create his music on on Linux. Would this app be enough for him? I don't know anything about creating music, but thought I'd ask if some of you do know music stuff.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

I have a much easier time using REAPER rather than Ardour.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Bitwig is by far the best option on linux rn. Ardour is too barebones and focused on recording rather than midi

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He mentions something about the software he uses on windows and how he has purchased a ton of "plugins" which, again, I have no idea what they are.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For plugins there is "yabridge"

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which I assume is a pain to make work on Linux?

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

I mean it works pretty flawlessly for me and I make music all the time. Some plugins don't work the best but most of them are working well

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So in terms of DAW (Digital Audio Workstation), Linux already has Bitwig, Reaper, Arour, LMMS, and possibly others. Personally, I find the bigger issue comes from plugin developers (the DAW is your main program, and you add your sounds/effects through plugins). Most companies are not delivering anything Linux native. Many of these plugins can be bridged with compatibility software, and will work fine that way. However, most of these plugins now are also using their own install/activation software center, and they are often a nightmare in Linux.

Music production is the one thing I currently keep a windows mini PC around for these days. It's not impossible to make the transition to Linux, but the last thing I want when pursuing a creative endeavor is technical software challenges holding me up.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's basically what the dude says in his videos. Such an unfortunate thing to see, honestly. I wish I could make such software.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This seems like a good use for a VM, no?

Is the plugin software VM hostile?

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The plugins would almost certainly work in a VM, but I imagine that latency would become a big headache. For my purposes, I picked up a Beelink mini pc and called it a day.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't know much about DAWs beyond messing around in them but I have a w11 VM with a recent nvidia card passed through (VFIO) and latency is not a concern in the slightest.

Was your experience with no graphical acceleration? It makes a world of difference. KVM/QEMU is also a good bit more performant than something like virtualbox if that's your frame of reference

Ive been wanting a mini PC for a while now, enjoy your beelink!

[–] Navigator@jlai.lu 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As a professional music composer myself and working on Linux with Ardour, I'd say it is overall pretty good since many years. If you don't like midi in Ardour you can use another soft to runs midi notes. On Linux the good thing is that if you don't like something you can change, specially with audio softwares.

To me the two major issues with professional music on Linux are :

  • Proprietary plugins for virtual instruments are a nightmare (hard to make them to work, expensive on machine's resources and unreliable),

  • Most company still think free software = unprofessional/amateur, which can make it harder to get jobs.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All I hear about is those damn plugins.

[–] Navigator@jlai.lu 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's a real issue because, technical aspect aside, lots of instruments cost a lot of money and are necessary to keep up with the trend. Also theses plugins can save you a lot of time, meaning you can provide more music on short time (effect plugins are concern as well here).

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have any recommendations for anyone looking to switch from windows DAW to a Linux DAW? Are there any tips regarding getting the plugins to play nicely?

I would love to switch to Linux on my desktop, but the only thing holding me back is that I use FL Studio with the Arturia V collection and I feel as though it would be nightmarish to try to get such a thing working in Linux.

[–] Navigator@jlai.lu 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fruity Loops doesn't have any easy equivalent on Linux. I'd say try reaper and ardour as they provide windows binaries. Be careful LMMS isn't a FL clone, it's midi only.

For the Arturia plugins you can install them with wine and use yabridge to make them compatible if they are not in vst compatible format (ardour can take vst2 and vst3 but sometimes it will not work). You can also have a dedicated PC for instruments (it is what I do) on windows (using audio gridder). Gotta test the Linux server version of audio gridder to see if I can go back to linux on m'y second PC. Or you can just send the midi notes to pc2 then get the audio out to pc1.

It's doable to make proprietary plugins run on Linux but the reliability is the nightmarish part, as an update can break the wine compatibility and it can take a few mins/hours to restore.

[–] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

I've been trying to use Ardour for the first time as part of my ongoing process of replacing all the proprietary software in my workflow to open source software. My hope is that Ardour can replace Audition and/or ProTools for me, but as of right now I've struggled a lot with how to even use the program. I probably just need to immerse myself in some tutorials haha

[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't played around with Ardour for a while. Might test this new release