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Firefox users criticized the permanent 'List All Tabs' button introduced in version 131.0, leading Mozilla to make it removable.

The button, designed to manage hidden tabs and prevent add-ons from hiding them, received backlash for being unnecessary alongside Firefox View.

Mozilla responded with a fix in version 131.0.3, allowing users to remove the button through toolbar customization.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That never bugged me too much, but I'll at least be glad it can be disabled for people who really dislike it.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Agreed. Being able to customize all elements of the top bar is one of the great things about Firefox.
I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be possible to remove newly added elements. Even the "Open a new tab" button can be removed, as well as the recently added "View recent browsing across windows and devices" button.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy crap, Firefox actually listened to it's users? Is Earth out of orbit or something???

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

kinda funny, though.. the functionality has been there for awhile. just flying under the radar with a less-noticeable icon.

[–] ReversalHatchery 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the problem is probably actually that it consumed additional space, instead of being kept on the new tab button's right click menu

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

It was there and "consumed space". It was just a less noticeable icon before (dark grey downwards-facing chevron).

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

... who the hell are these special users that Firefox apparently pander to, and what mass of people do they constitute to make them so powerful?

More importantly, how do I join this special club?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's probably the nature of the change, too.

  1. It's easy to add a switch to disable the button.
  2. It doesn't cut into their bottom line.
  3. It's damn good PR.

Other stuff that people have been complaining about, like the massive backlash against baking in 3rd-party AI, won't make the cut.

Relatively benign things like tab grouping are challenging, so despite being much more popular, the easier-to-implement AI features were given a fast pass to Release versions of Firefox.

[–] TimeWalker@lemmy.foxden.party 19 points 3 weeks ago

I'm just confused why this has annoyed users just NOW since the button has always existed. It was just a down-pointing chevron before it got changed to a new icon so it's not like it suddenly popped up and took space away

[–] pulverizedcoccyx@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally just obsoleted my 2 week old CSS hack haha. Another useless GitHub project on my account. https://github.com/barelyelectric/firefox-csshacks

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, the best way to learn / practice is to build tools for yourself. Just think of it as Mozilla gave you a useful coding challenge before they came to their senses.

[–] julianh@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago

Nice, that always bugged me.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do we want to be able to hide tabs in the first place?

[–] ReversalHatchery 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

tab management addons is one example, like those that make tab groups. maybe there are other use cases too, but this feature is for the addons, not to be directly used by users

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ok, that makes sense.

I still don't see why they (Mozilla) felt the feature was needed, since if you're installing an addon to manage tabs, that's all on you, the user.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Huh, guess i missed the drama with ESR.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

I noticed a little folder icon had appeared just recently and that if I clicked it, it... listed all the tabs, so I guess that was the list all tabs button. I actually rather liked it but hadn't yet trained myself in to the habit of using it. I hadn't even noticed it's now gone, but curiously it seems like for me it hasn't really gone, so much as it's become a down arrow icon rather than a folder. Sounds like this change is to make it optional, meaning it will otherwise stay there which tracks with my experience, but why has it become a down arrow now?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

ugh, finally

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

People only now notice an icon that has been there since at least Firefox 112

Media literacy is at an all-time low!