Just installed an update to 10 2 days ago to find that it had installed Copilot and put an icon for it on my taskbar. Stuff like this is why 10 will be my last version of Windows.
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Can't wait to see what industries that handle sensitive data will do when Recall becomes an integrated part of Windows 11. They might have no choice but to migrate to Linux.
They will pay for enterprise licenses and be able to disable and delete it.
Only us plebs get whipped.
Exactly. Group policies give lots of control to mass enable/disable features.
It's one of the reasons to pirate Enterprise Windows instead of Home/Pro, so you can write your own group policies for your own device.
Been doing that for the past 15 years or so, being able to use group policy is essential with Windows. I'm pretty sure my son really wants to upgrade his last computer (to Linux), but I may have more work to convince the wife.
I always just bought grey market keys (for Pro/Enterprise), in nearly 20 years I never had one fail or quit working randomly.
Why would your wife need to be convinced?
When my gf buys a new laptop she hands it to me and says:
Linux this
Mine Linuxes it herself and has strong distro preferences.
Because she still like the familiarity of Windows. She doesn't do anything specific to Windows, just doesn't want to leave it yet.
I thought it was your son's computer, not a shared one
Oh they aren't shared, he is holding out because he believes he'll have gaming issues; my wife on the other hand, just doesn't want to make the switch yet.
I probably could have phrased it better.
Edit: when I had said 'his last computer', meant that he just has one left on Windows.
The LSTC edition has a few more years in it... but I wouldn't do MASS in a GRAVE... ehr, I mean - fuck.
Look, just search for "MassGrave" on GitHub.
doesnt the ltsc version target enterprises and stuff and you cant just use your home/pro license you need a whole diff license and many anticheats and steam will end support for 10 once it ends support
...did you search "MassGrave"?
oh yeah ik but i meant legit ways
LTSC is "only" available through an enterprise licensing through Microsoft or its partners, which means you can probably ask a company or organization for one of their volume keys, and will probably be the only Windows where you can permanently disable Recall...
Like seriously, I had problems disabling telemetry in Windows 10 Pro because it kept re-enabling them, but not in the LTSC version.
ohhhh i thought you pay for it normally it kinda makes sense tho but yh
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I'd go with Bazzite, which is what SteamOS and Fedora Atomic Desktop would look like if they had a child.
Kubuntu crapped out on me after updating, so I tried a few other distros. Bazzite refused to install, but OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has made a really good first impression.
You guys do realize that you can remove copilot from Windows 11 with a simple regedit or group policy editor tweak, right? Takes like 10 seconds..
The amount of times that windows "features" come back after I disable them via GPO on Windows 10 Entrerprise tells me that this isn't true.
The irony that setting up Windows now requires more command line use than Linux in 2024.
If you're using Enterprise on a personal machine, you've messed something up. There are other ways beyond Group Policy in that environment that are probably causing what you're seeing. SCCM, Intune, Policies over the network vs local... that significantly raises the chances of something else stepping on your local Group Policies.
I've not had that problem on either of my Win 10 Pro machines when using Group Policy to disable things, over the last four years.
It's been a year since I've uninstalled Windows, but I believe Windows 10 Pro does not have access to the stronger GPO policies that enterprise has. Enterprise was the ad-free version for a while there, but I think it's just as bad as Pro now.
For now, until MS locks that downvlike they have with other things
Until they lobby to get laws changed, many companies have legal requirements regarding PII that mean serious fines if CoPilot or Recall ever turn on in their environment (and if they're caught of course).
Windows is not going to fuck this up and force this on, handing easy legal wins against them to the world. They will have the normal configuration options available that they always do for features with potential legal liability attached.
Did you miss the recent security blunder with Government security and Microsoft? They didn't want to tell governments of a secuirty hole in case it meant lowers sales.
yah, i have linux on all my devices save one and ive found ways to get win11 to just work without the bullshit.
it just takes about as much effort to learn systemd syntax because everything became the systemd singularity.
You know damn well how ridiculous that sounds. And if this is the answer to removing Copilot, no thanks. Linux works perfectly fine for me and my gaming needs.
in 24h2 they made it worse its a dependency of explorer which breaks tabbing and stuff
Is copilot regionalised? I'm in NZ and have been running Windows 11 for a year or so, and have never seen copilot appear.
i just updated. https://www.startallback.com/ fixed most of my issues along with https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
shame we have to do it, but even with Linux I have to do a bunch of stuff to make it more usable though at least it wont spy on you by default
Copilot is not an issue, it's Recall that could send screenshots of all files and folders to Microsoft.
Even if they don't send data, it is a treasure trove for a hacker to get. Such a terrible idea MS came up with.
Good timing honestly. The only reason I kept a Windows machine around was for gaming. Now we have much better support across the board.
The invasion of Crappilot is so close!