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What are you talking about? I just tried two test queries on DDG, and neither one had LLM-generated nonsense, and the one that was in double-quotes returned only five results, all of which had the double-quoted phrase and one of which was the thing I was challenging it to find.
Can you give an example of a query where DDG returns LLM results or doesn't respect your double-quotes?
I think they are referring to the search engines returning LLM content farm websites.
Maybe Iโm a little out of the loop, what are llm content farm websites?
Sites that mass-generate garbage using llms
Think recipe websites that take forever to get to the recipe but it's for other topics. Like a simple question, "what is the release date for X new game?" And then there will be like 5+ paragraphs of jibber jabber about the game and then finally the last article will say when it releases.
This sort of site has been around for a while but supposedly they're more common nowadays. Personally I think people just have a better eye for things not written entirely by humans. Either way it's annoying to deal with them.
Ugh I feel like I have been seeing more of that. Asked how many ml in a wine pour and got like 5 sites that wouldnโt just come out and say it. All kinds of gobbledegook dancing around the topic but no one would just freaking say it. 140ml in case you needed it
They're clearly not.
https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist is supposed to remove AI slop from the results of various search engines. Wants the uBlacklist browser addon though.
Posted this previously:
yes. use any of the following, in no particular order:
Also, Stract
Are you (or is anyone here) daily-driving Stract yet? I discovered it a few months ago and thought it was everything I was looking for in a search engine, but also concluded that its search results aren't up to the standard I can use for now, so I filed it as one to look out for. Would be interested in hearing others' experiences.
Unfortunately not. I'd like to, but as you say it's not quite there yet. I probably should try it more frequently.
I think Searx is a good suggestion. Can be a bit slow to return results because it runs the search on a bunch of search engines and compiles the results, but that helps to make sure better stuff rises to the top.
The other suggestions aren't suggestions at all. They are obsoleted by searx.space
DDG ... obsolete
startpage.com ... obsolete
Browsers have default search engines. Curse everytime, DDG is accidentally queried.
DDG is a curse word!
Any centralized site, with privacy claims, is treated as lying thru their teeth. Front run future news.
Microsoft invests in Ecosia
I use Qwant sometimes but it's sourced from Bing. Searx is better if you can self-host. Kagi is better if you can afford to pay (but you asked for free).
Doesn't Kagi offer X amount of free searches per month before you pay?
No. They have a trial of 100 one-time searches, but that's it.
Not sure if its untrustworthly or not, but switched over to Startpage and been liking the results. Just wished it would implement the !bang system from ddg
They use Googles results with a bit of Bing mixed in. Bangs should work too, like !wiki for Wikipedia or !d for DeepL They're partly owned by an adtech company though (and say they dont share anything).
Reply to this for me to see tomorrow please
ok
Thanks. Got a lot of downvotes lol
I've been using brave search on my pc and phone for maybe 6 months now. i still use google like 10% of the time if i'm searching for something that isn't in english, but otherwise, id even say for many things brave returns better results than google
shitty LLM-generated nonsense sites
It's kind of impossible to filter these out computationally, regardless of brand. You pretty much need to run them through a bigger LLM than generated them, and the economics of doing that for every indexed site are obviously bad. Doing it by hand may or may not be workable either, depending on how quickly you can detect bad domains versus how quickly a new domain can be put up.
It's on us to figure out who's trustworthy, and who just sounds authoritative, unfortunately.