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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

The official process was a pain anyway, as it required sending personal identification data to China. Anyone that wants a custom ROM on their phone should be looking elsewhere, although I don't know of any brand that makes that process easy anymore

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, Pixel still unlocks freely.

[–] Frederic 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

can we use Google Wallet to tap pay with an unlocked bootloader?

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do with my Pixel 7 Pro. You need Magisk + Play Integrity Fix by Chiteroman at the moment.

[–] Frederic 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah, on previous phones I played cat-and-mouse with magisk and all kind of patch to have Wallet work, but it breaks every 2 or 3 weeks and you have to chase down how to re-fix it..

It's slightly more reliable right now, but for sure, it's going to be cat-and-mouse for awhile at least. Google is phasing out legacy Play Integrity checks, and while it looked like there was no future for workarounds after they deprecated legacy methods, now at least it looks like the community has replicated a functional full keybox attestation chain so there's hope we can continue to workaround indefinitely into the future.

So yes, while you don't need to program your own solution and can just - in the end - install a pre-built fix still, it takes attention to keep up. If the above all sounds like gibberish, it's a good indication of the level of commitment you have to have to keep up with it. For me, it's worth it, but definitely understand, it gets tiresome.

[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 13 points 3 months ago

Pixel devices are trivially easy to unlock

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

OnePlus phones have green lines on screen and damaging motherboard issues.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've had the OnePlus 6 and the OnePlus Nord N200 and I've not seen those things occur but thanks for the information.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those are prehistoric phones in no way relevant to this discussion

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

The nord n200 is 2021

[–] Rekall_Incorporated@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Agreed, the official process was a massive pain and borderline non functional.

[–] chottomatte@lemdro.id 2 points 3 months ago

So far I couldn't unlock the bootloader because whenever I add a number it tells me to try again tomorrow

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago

The source on this is one guy from X (formerly Twitter), from Vietnam.

I mean, it sound plausible and expected, but it's not some official news.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Cool.
My country has limited choice in phone OEMs. Soon the only unlockable choice will be Motorola.
And when they too stop allowing it, I guess I can go fuck myselfπŸ–•

The hell is the point of putting more powerful silicon in the damn things if they'll just keep restricting what you can do with them more and more each year?

I fucking hate tech companies, man.

The point of more power technology is to easily control their users more. The days of having "open" phones died with Nexus

[–] shekau@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago
[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If that's true, the temperature in the frog's pan goes up a little more... soon, we will lose all freedom in the mobile world :(

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

Perhaps for the best, the sooner we stop using those pieces of shit, the sooner we'll regain a bit of control of our own lives

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I feel like I'm limited to pixel phones since they're the only widely available phone that doesn't void the warranty for unlocking the bootloader. I haven't tried roms in a few years but I like having that choice. Fairphones can be a little hard to get. Are there other options? Lineage support would be ideal.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been using Pixels for a while and I've been perfectly happy.

Well, except for my 6 having a green tint to the screen, but that was fixed in a software update a while back.

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I don't have any complaints with the 6 either other than the fingerprint reader being a downgrade compared to older models. I don't plan to upgrade until the 10/10a with a TSMC tensor and hopefully major improvements in performance and efficiency. Would be nice to have more choices without sacrificing this admittedly obscure principle.

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is also Shiftphone. The 8 model is supposed to come out in january 25. They explicitly support custom roms.

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they stick with a Samsung manufactured 750G, it'll be limited to the low end market. There's nothing wrong with that but it's not really an option for the western mid to high end market.

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, they will use a 778G.

Why do you think a slower processor would be a no-go? Are there so much people who care for that? Apart from smartphone gaming (which I find really stupid), this shouldn't really matter.

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

I think we can agree that most people will never need anything more than a midrange processor for average use and only overbuy due to marketing.

Speaking only for myself, I've become accustomed to the snappiness of higher end processors and high refresh screens. All the screens I use on a daily basis are 120hz+ and even though I don't game on my phone, the benefits of having a high refresh rate screen has become a nice quality of life feature for me. I still have a 60hz phone that I test as a degoogled phone and the difference is quite noticeable.

A high-end processor helps drive apps at those higher refresh rates and also just as important, it can brute-force some of the less-than-well optimized open source apps I rely on to interact with my self-hosted infrastructure.

I can live with a lower-end phone but I'm willing to pay a bit more for features and performance that meet my standards.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was a matter of time. We really need a good(or at least better) company to step up and make a phone. A framework phone would be fire but its gonna take years if they wanna fo it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Motorola is pretty good or at least my current older device is solid

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Sony still welcomes unlocking without anything specialβ€”you get a headphone jack & microSD too.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

ASUS did this recently & lost a lawsuit in the UK for lying to customers to say unlock servers were only temporarily down for a couple months (lol)

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Glad I didn't buy a zenfone, looked like a great option but that sucks

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I had it in my cart & went to double-check nothing changed about unlocking… happy I took a step back

[–] imalmo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Interesting. I hadn't heard about this. I got this response from Xiaomi earlier today after complaining they mis-sold me a phone as their unique selling point was the ability to unlock the bootloader.

"We hope you could understand, that such an operation will disable some of the built-in security features of the system, and those security features are part of what keeps the operating system safe and your data secure from exposure or corruption. And this misuse will void your phone's warranty and it may render your phone useless depending on the security measures in place on your phone."

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Another words they want to harvest your data

Anyway I am still rocking a 2019 phone with Lineage OS and it works pretty well. Used phones are where its at these days. Hold on to your working device until it dies.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Still got my phone from 2020, I really like the phone but the software is creaking, even the custom ROM I moved to is now discontinued and no Lineage available.

I looked at porting something myself but it is ... not trivial to say the least.

Just feels frustrating that the phone still works fine but is gradually losing functionality and I can't update it. Also ngl I really miss having contactless payments. I've tried all the fixes I can find online with no success.

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 5 points 3 months ago
[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

Sad to hear

[–] ZeroPoke@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

My current phone is an F5. One of my worst Android experiences has been this phone before I put a different ROM. Never would buy another one without being able to unlock the bootloader.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

Xiaomi can suck my balls, the very first automatic updates they force on a new phone is the stuff that sticks advertise EVERY. FUCKING. WHERE. Gallery? Have some ads. Settings? Get yo ads! Calculator? ADS ADS ADS! I can't tell whether they're on par or worse than Samsung with stupid bloat, data harvesting and ads everywhere. The fucking phones are also infuriatingly condescending, treating you like a dumb toddler, showing warnings about "daaaaangeroooooooous" actions you might be doing and putting 30s timers before you can hit "LET ME FUCKING CONTINUE"

Unlocking the bootloader is such a hassle, too, I gave up and used ADB Bridge to uninstall some of the bloatware to make my experience less insufferable.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So that's why unlocking the bootloader on my dad's phone doesn't work. This really sucks, I hope there's some other way to do it because HyperOS is straight ass.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You could look for a hardware vulnerability. I doubt they would be so careless but you never know.

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[–] chottomatte@lemdro.id 3 points 3 months ago

When I was trying to unlock the bootloader, Mi flash tool told me there's an update (v7.?) and gave me the link to download the newer version, when I tried to download it every browser I used gave an error in the website even with VPN Now reading this news , even if it's still unofficial.... I was wondering if Xiaomi retracted the update because it's actually preparing to close the program

[–] chottomatte@lemdro.id 2 points 3 months ago

I've decided a long time ago I won't buy Xiaomi phone again unless it's my only choice... if that's true then it's no more a choice Anybody knows what are OnePlus and Oppo polices with unlocking bootloader ?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

sad as fuck if true. i really liked xiaomi.

[–] Frederic 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Same for PoCo ? It seems the PoCo F3 is one of the phone with the most custom ROM development on XDA, very popular.

[–] ub0x5jtk@lemdro.id 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

List one good ROM. I am on F3, there is literally zero interesting ROMs

[–] Frederic 1 points 3 months ago

no clue, I am on HyperOS. But there is all the popular one like Lineage or Pixel

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