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So I'm looking for a laptop, but before you downvote and move on, I've got a twist: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux support that's going to intentionally be console-only and rely on TUIs to make a lower-distraction device.

I was looking at older Thinkpads with 4:3 screens and the good keyboard before Lenovo went all chicklet with them, but I'm kinda concluding they're both way too expensive AND way too old to be a reasonable choice at this point.

A X220 or T40-whatever would be great and be the perfect aesthetic, but they're expensive, hard to find parts for, and using enough crusty old shit that this becomes yet another delve into retro computing and not one into practical, useful computing which is the goal here.

So, anyone have any recommendations of any devices in the last decade that have a reasonable keyboard, screen, use modern enough components that you can source new drives and RAM and batteries and such, and preferably aren't coated in a coating that's going to turn to sticky goo?

Thin(ner) and light(er) would be nice, but probably not a dealbreaker if the rest of the pieces align. This will be almost entirely used at a table for writing and such.

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[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 month ago

Literally any laptop will be able to run just Linux with TUI my dude.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

How about MNT Reform or it's Pocket little brother?

They get you

  • Full mechanical keyboards, ortholinear if you're into that
  • Modern components
  • HIGHLY modular and repairable - their main thrust is making messing with your internals accessible
  • No sticky goo coating
  • Cyberdeck aesthetics (esp the Pocket reform)

They do NOT get you

  • Low price - you didn't mention a budget constraint
  • Thin. They are chunky kids, though certainly the Pocket reform has a reasonably portable profile
[–] fairchild@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Was about to say the same, definitely a good choice!

Those are cool, and they've definitely nailed the aesthetic. Also looks like they're working on a new revision which looks like a reasonable upgrade.

Not sure it's the right choice for what I'm after (it's kinda expensive and very performance limited for the cost), but uh, I'm going to keep an eye out because that's a cool piece of kit.

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So there are some linux laptop companies that make dedicated linux laptops. See Purism and Tuxedo. They are very compatible and customizable, but I would recommend taking a look at Tuxedo because they have a much wider range of devices. Purism is like if Apple was a pro-consumer company. Their devices are all 100% libre, but are quite expensive.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are your thoughts on NovaCustom?

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 2 points 1 month ago

I hadn't heard of it before, but it seems like a solid company.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Where I am currently working they have a tech space with tons of old Thinkpads. Really crazy, these are simply not used.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

T4xx thinkpads or the 12” MacBook Pro 2012.

They’re both very well supported by Linux and have oodles of parts hanging around.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Careful with think pads from the last 6ish years. Their build quality is absolute garbage, even the T series

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

past like 8 years they've turned shit imo. I got a used t460s and it feels so cheap compared to the t530 I had before. Like I know it's the s version and it's slimmer but it feels so fragile and I can not for the life of me figure out why it keeps freezing when I pick it up by the bottom left corner or if it bangs around too much in my bag. just overall shit. still better then most other laptops tho

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

my T570 crashed when pickup it up on the bottom right corner.

And after 2 years an 1 month (1 month after warranty), it broke completely. Likely a mainboard defect.

That's when I said "oh hey, frameworks are exactly as expensive as thinkpads, but way better to repair"

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Wack.

Guess I'm going to just keep using this one til that happens and I'll start saving for a framework

[–] TruePe4rl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

And don't get any Macbook past 2014. 2015 and later kinda ditched normal connectivity and MagSafe. I have 2016 with only 2 C ports and a jack and it is not the nicest experience out there.

Btw, on recent machines the ports are back. I wonder why, ...

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

If you're not going to use graphical browsers, like ff or chrome, then get a DELL 3190 (4 gb ram, 64 gb ssd, 1366x768 res). It cost me just $150 as a refurb. I mean, if you don't want to use it as a modern computer (e.g. aaa gaming, video editing, browser with many tabs etc), then it's the perfect device. Image of it: https://mastodon.social/@eugenialoli/112253289106616207

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Before I continue, you should probably specify your budget explicitly.

With that said, almost anything older than a few years should do what you need to just fine. I have a Lenovo Yoga 710 from 2016 that works decent, and had an old Fujitsu Lifebook from 2010 that wasn't too shabby as well. Heck, I once booted Linux off a cheap piano black Toshiba laptop originally made for Vista.

Just choose a random old laptop and you'll most likely be good.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've got a Clevo laptop that covers most of your list. Mine's a bit older, a 7th gen i5, but was very cheap, and easy to upgrade. If the newer models are built the same way, it's what I'm going to go for when I eventually upgrade 👍

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Aren't System76 essentially rebranded Clevo laptops? Where do you find Clevo machines at an actually good price?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

they are. props, however, for system76 branching out into their in-house hardware.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Mine is a Stone branded Clevo, a Stonebook Pro p11b, but as you say, there are others out there. I bought mine refurbished for about £150 and upgraded the SSD and RAM.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lenovo X1 Carbon for mainstream. NovaCustom for small business.