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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 month ago

Just please get us proper color management. Creators need accuracy & HDR is still a mess.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do love how they just kind of like picked up Linux and dragged it into mainstream gaming lol. Hopefully they're doing the same thing to Wayland now.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah. They've done a good job. Strategically its so that Steam can't easily be crushed under Microsoft's enormous boot. So it's a good forward-thinking commitment that everyone can benefit from. (Everyone except Microsoft, I suppose.)

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago
[–] kawa@reddeet.com 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Accelerating wayland développement would mean forking it. As it is right now there's a lot of yapping in their git for every decision, small or big.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Accelerating wayland développement would mean forking it.

You mean feurking

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Feurking deez nuts

[–] Laser@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

what’s feurking

An optional step in the développement process

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[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

The authentic French translation of forking.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

French 🫵

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd be fine with switching over to Valve's crazy high-speed frog version of Wayland if it came down to it lol

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

That's how you get fragmentation and instability. Then something is changed it needs to be implemented and then tested by all the desktops. If you move to fast you get ahead of development and testing which is very bad

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

The thing to keep in mind is that it is a protocol. When something is merged all downstream projects must implement it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I personally think it is a very bad idea to "speed run development" of protocols. This will only lead to broken designs which will then cause each desktop top do things differently.

Wayland protocol development is slow and heavily debated in order to make sure everyone is happy implementing them. You want all desktop to use the same spec and this could lead to additional desktop specific protocols which would totally break compatibility.

In short, this is a really bad idea and should be rejected by everyone

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I personally think it is a very bad idea to “speed run development” of protocols.

Stalling the development of protocols for nearly a decade is bad, too.

They should talk and meet somewhere between “Just develop in production!” and “I personally dislike it for non-technical reasons, so I will block it for everyone!”

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is that you could end up with protocols that certain desktops don't want to implement.

[–] chameleon@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That already happens constantly and I'd consider this the consequence of it, rather than the cause. You can only issue so many vetoes before people no longer want to deal with you and would rather move on.

The recent week of Wayland news (including the proposal from a few hours ago to restate NACK policies) is starting to feel like the final attempt to right things before a hard fork of Wayland. I've been following wayland-protocols/devel/etc from the outside for a year or two and the vibes have been trending that way for a while.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No one will use a fork of Wayland. That would be suicide. The Wayland project will continue no matter what other things people are working on. I can see a separate project forming but it strongly doubt it will have any traction.

If you recall back to the days of the yearly internet people said the same thing about TCP/IP

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

No one will use a fork of Wayland. That would be suicide.

Famous last words ...

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I personally think it is a very bad idea to "speed run development" of protocols. This will only lead to broken designs which will then cause each desktop top do things differently.

and thus we have slow development which has resulted in absent designs, which has caused each desktop to do things differently to fill the gaps