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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 110 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Isn't it a bit ridiculous for researchers to have to pay a publisher to publish the content that they themselves make money from?

They're double dipping, and also triple dipping with the peer reviews done on a volunteer basis.

A racket, I say.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm still not sure, what exactly the journals are actually doing.

Like, in all seriousness, what service do they provide? Just hosting the platform for anonymized reviews and basically a blog for the actual articles? That should cost maybe a few millions each year, yet this sector makes billions in revenue.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 11 points 4 months ago

Gatekeeping As A Service.

Eeeghh. Such parasites.

[–] Frogodendron 1 points 4 months ago

I’d say (a couple years ago) the service is also supposed to be access via DOI in perpetuity and presence in all the relevant databases, so that’s gotta cost some money for the reassurance as opposed to a pdf file “hosted” on Google Drive. But after Heterocycles fiasco I am not sure about that anymore.

Well, and some mark that this is likely a valid piece of research if it’s at www.reputablejournal.com as opposed to this likely being half-baked something at www.somerxiv.com or this likely being absolute lunacy at www.anyothersite.com.

Still, yes, billions in revenue vs millions spent essentially on essentially simple tasks like hosting and cataloguing (plus matching authors to reviewers I guess, though with how often I am asked to find them myself it’s doubtful) does not compute indeed.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Obviously scientists don't want to work any more and eat avocado toast too much.

Have they tried getting a college degree to increase their job prospects?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

They should go to a trade school instead to learn actual skills instead if a silly science degree

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago

“Have a cup of coffee every morning? Maybe switch to every other day to offset the costs!”

[–] match@pawb.social 18 points 4 months ago

just publish an LLM-written article in a trash journal so you can get more funding 👉🧠

if you have any credibility on the line you can even sell co-authorship slots for a little pocket cash!

[–] innermeerkat@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago