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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 36 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Excellent band, by the way.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit. That was pretty profound.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago
[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The cosmos is within us. We are made of star stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself.

Carl Sagan.

[–] jimitsoni18@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

This Carl guy sounds pretty smart. Maybe he should study physics or something.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

An explosion is pure entropy. It's high energy releasing to a low energy state in an uncontrolled manner

We climb down the energy slope very slowly to reverse entropy and create order

The universe is like us - temporary order emerges as it slides towards entropy

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps another way to think of it is that we're a patch of localised order in an overall disordered universe

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Or perhaps more eloquently:

we're the standing part of a harmonic fart

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand this, but it sounds cool.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

We're the fixed red dot in the superposition of the green and blue waves interfering with one other

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But are we actually creating order? To maintain life's order, we are creating much more disorder somewhere else.

Life is but an entropy maximization machine.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On the overall scale of the universe? No, not even remotely close. On the local scale of the Earth, generally yes.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, as much as possible anyway. When considering mass alone, life is quite efficient.

According to Wolfram Alpha:

The sun produces 3.8 * 10^28^ watts.

A single human produces 104 watts (calculated through the average caloric intake assuming that intake ≈ energy consumption) through heat radiation.

Therefore:

1 kg of human converts 1.5 watt into heat.

1 kg of the sun converts 0.0002 watt into (heat) radiation.

And while I have nearly no understanding how entropy is calculated, from those values alone it seems like humans produce more entropy per kg than the sun. I'm pretty sure entropy is somewhat related to energy production though.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, if you consider just a human-mass equivalent portion of the Sun then it's not doing much, but that's not really a useful comparison. We're talking about total net entropy here, not entropy per unit mass.

But yes, if it makes you feel any better, I'll concede that if you had octillions of people our total metabolic energy output would, in fact, be significantly higher than that of the Sun.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 months ago

...just ripples in the carbon cycle, momentary standing waves until we lose coherence...

[–] jimitsoni18@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

A single human may look organized, but collectively we are chaos

[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 10 points 2 months ago
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just recently mentioned the conscious universe theory in conversation with a friend.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago

If we share this nightmare Then we can dream Spiritus mundi

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Life is anything that moves, reproduces, senses, grows, respires, excretes and eats.

Consciousness is more mysterious and less well defined.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but how do living things come into existence? What makes a cell alive?

It's not about defining what a living being is.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jiggling. It's about wiggling and jiggling.

[–] SurfinBird@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

“Jiggle physics is the real science. Everything else is stamp collecting.” - Einstein maybe

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is "sensing" or "growing" or "respiring" or "excreting" or "eating"?

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would define those terms, but you would just ask me to define the terms I used to define them, wouldn't you? Eventually, language is known by other people without being defined in terms of language.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not really, i left out the term reproduce because i think it has some reality. But others like sensing — does an atom changing the electron cloud due to an electric feild or nearby atom count as sensing because it senses the presence of nearby atoms or whatever?

Won't growing constitute of some large mass body collecting more mass due to its gravitation?

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

The paragraphing has gone all the way through readable back to "I'm not reading this".

[–] troybot@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I heard Bill Wurtz voice while I read this

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Even crazier space dust!

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

and then downvotes it

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Actually I live in a skip but thanks for the pep talk.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Mind that textbook we did in school?

I’m still tripping