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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Calling her far left is so rediculous lmao

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

I had a coworker at my old company call her communist and I was like... "What the fuck are you talking about?" And he was like "well that's what my Cuban dad said" and we had to like... Go over what her actual positions were and at the end be was like "Jesus she seems... Really reasonable" and it was just like "yeah man. America is really far right. She's pretty much the dead center of left in this country. A communist she certainly is not"

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

I think her 2020 primary had common sense positions. Meow she's pretty "centrist."

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Very interesting! I'd like to add to this by saying that most people outside of the US see Kamala as a plain fascist! Its very interesting to compare such points of view!

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I dont and I dont really see why you would? Like she might be racist etc, but it seems pretty clear to me that she is not trying to do a fascism.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Most people think this because of the genocide shes promoting in gaza, but other people have different opinions indeed

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Promoting genocide or participating in one is not really something that qualifies a person as a fascist. I think its fair to point out her support of Israels actions and while trying be more precise with the language we use. I think its important make it clear how even folks that are not fascists can do awful things.

[–] Midnight@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fascism isn't an opinion. We have definitions for systems of government and there are countless scholarly articles about what constitutes fascism. Things can be horrible and not be fascist, most governments are.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you can take most definitions of fascism and choose any random characteristic and this woman wont disappoint you

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the point that many of us are making us that she's a monster, but not a fascist.

Fascists are monstrous, but not all monsters are fascists.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@CPMSP@midwest.social shared a link to a list of traits of fascism. She doesn't fit these. The list describes a form of demagoguery that is inherently conservative, violent, ethnonationalist, and toxicly masculine, By this definition, Netanyahu and his allies for instance are obviously, clearly fascist.

Harris is supporting the same agenda. She is still guilty of genocide. But she's pursuing genocide under a banner of diverse, forward-looking girl-boss pandering to progressives. It's still bad, but I don't think you can call imperialism under the banner of fake leftist signaling fascism. I would call that neoliberal imperialism. It's still bad. It's just a different bad thing.

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 2 points 2 months ago

The one you answered had a history of pro Russia, anti America/Democrats, commentary. Just another .ml tankie