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Fox News did not air a second of the speeches from alienated GOP leaders and former Trump officials who endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris at this week’s Democratic National Convention.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 32 points 4 months ago

It's OK! Republicans are KNOWN for doing their Own Research and will SURELY find these Clips on their Own!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Former GOP leaders and Trump officials? Cool and good.

Palestinian-Americans? Now let's not be crazy!

[–] GammaGames 9 points 4 months ago

The reaction to that speech was disgraceful

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No but don't you understand kiddo? Genocides perpetrated by republicans are unconscionable, but genocides perpetrated by democrats are just savvy politicking.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

"If we don't commit genocide the other party will commit worse genocide!"

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe i'm in the minority here, but inviting republicans from the bush years to speak at the DNC isn't actually that reassuring to me if I care about stopping genocide, or think that the US foreign policy as a whole is bad and wrong.

Hell I'd go so far as to say if you invite a ghoul like Mike Pence to speak at your convention, you obviously don't give a shit about LBG issues at all, and are only using them as a shied so that no one can criticize your absolute inaction over the past 50 years on all social issues.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The point being made with their appearance is that Trump is so toxic and repulsive that defectors are actively coming out of the woodwork to endorse Harris. It's meant to appeal to independents and Republicans who see modern Trump and are increasingly off-put by him.

Now, they are all aggressively repulsive pieces of shit, sure. But I think we all agree that Trump is an even more aggressive piece of shit in comparison.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Participating in oppressor Olympics means you don't actually hold any values.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Refusing to participate in anything and just letting bad things happen means you don't actually hold any values.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you support Genocide. Good to know, now just be honest with yourself.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"sitting around doing nothing does not make you morally superior"

"So you support genocide"

Well you sure sound like a rational person with reasonable arguments worth listening to...

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Who said anything about doing nothing? There is a large amount you can do beside supporting genocide "because the world is complex", and doing nothing. One of those things is not voting for the parties that support genocide as a bare minimum.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

"There's lots of things you can do, one of those things is nothing."

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Refusing to participate in anything

What are you saying? That First Past The Post voting disenfranchises a huge portion of the electorate by artificially limiting the number of viable political parties?

The "totally supports democracy" democrats are probably all over correcting this issue in the states they control right?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Yup, FPTP is garbage, and the US is a dumpster fire third world country with a Gucci handbag.

And yet, doing nothing can result in things getting even worse, so someone shouldn't pretend to have some sort of moral superiority over doing nothing from stopping napalm being thrown on the fire because "it's already burning anyway."

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Appealing to right wing voters by adopting their policies never works.

These ex-Republicans are not reaching other Republicans at the DNC. They are speaking to Democrats and selling them on their policies.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you actually listen to any of their speeches?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

No as you can read in the article Fox News didn't air them /s

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

This is an indictment, not something to be proud of

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

And no one was surprised.

Fox news is the most partisan of media.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As you can see, if conservatives were not chained to the Republican party by First Past the Post voting, they could at least have a chance to elect a more moderate conservative party.

like the democrats with a new name.

Give your fellow citizens the freedom to vote outside the two party system by supporting an electoral reform movement in your state.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I got kicked out from Radio, Television, and Film school for poor grades, poor attendance, and a number of other poor choices, so I really don't know what I'm talking about when I ask this question:

Doesn't that violate the Equal Time Rule?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Doesn’t that violate the Equal Time Rule?

not at all, nor should that rule even exist. It's always been a bunch of bullshit pushed by conservatives to normalize their positions.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

But without fairness and balance, how are the masses supposed to think unpopular ideas have significant support???

[–] puttputt 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

According to this FCC fact sheet:

Equal opportunities and other political-related benefits are available only to individuals who have attained the status of “legally qualified candidate.” These rules do not apply to cable channels or web-based video or audio such as streamed video content, podcasts, or social media.

And since Fox News is a cable channel, it does not apply

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm almost positive that Fox isn't cable... It's broadcast and carried by cable companies because they're required to do so by the FCC

[–] puttputt 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you're (reasonably) confusing Fox and Fox News.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Oh my god!

The upside to this is that I've proven my honesty about getting kicked out of film school

I have to admit, I love being wrong because it means that I learned something new. Thanks and thank you for your incredibly gentle response.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

Probably not, since they did cover a presidential candidate and other speakers are not the ones running.

[–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Of course fox didn’t cover them, fox is too busy glazin that weird, geriatric fucking idiot.