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TIL Debian releases are named after Toy Story characters (wiki.debian.org)
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The codenames for every major Debian release are named after characters from Pixar's Toy Story franchise. Debian's unstable release is fittingly named after Sid, an unstable character from the Toy Story movies.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 76 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I love the Linux world's tradition of less serious names, in general.

I guess when the OS is free, you don't need to get the marketing people involved as much.
The kernel was almost named Freax. Then there's GNU, Slackware, KDE which was originally the Kool Desktop Environment, The GIMP (released 1 year after Pulp Fiction), ...
It's often due to the devs creating it as a hobby project and giving it a light-hearted name to show it's nothing professional or important - and then it becomes important later.

My favorite right now is RebeccaBlackOS, which is the only current distro built around Wayland's reference compositor Weston, showcasing all the capabilities Wayland has.
Unlike Hannah Montana Linux, it has no Rebecca Black theming at all. It's just called that because the dev is a fan of hers.

[–] somenonewho@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The kernel was almost named freax

Did you know that kernel releases have codenames?

My favourite being 4.0: "Hurr durr I'ma sheep" because I remember taking part in that poll.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks for that laugh!

[–] curry@programming.dev 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It made me wince when Android did away with its dessert based codenames and now they're just 'Android 12' etc. It really went corporate after that direction.

And please tell me RebeccaBlackOS shows a cool popup or console message every Friday.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They didn't:

  • Android 12: Snow Cone
  • Android 13: Tiramisu
  • Android 14: Upside Down Cake
  • Android 15: Vanilla Ice Cream

They stopped using the codenames in marketing, but they are still there.

[–] curry@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Happy to be corrected. But I still wish they were used prominently as it used to be before.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

GNU

Which stands for 'GNU is not Unix'. Also 'less' (which is more). Pine is(was) Program for Internet News and Email and the FOSS fork is 'Alpine' or 'Alternatively Licensed Program for Internet News and Email'. And there's a ton more of wordplays and other more or less fun stuff on how/why things are named like they are.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

WINE Is Not an Emulator

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

i like the names they're cute, i just wish they would attach vesion numbers to the names in official docs because it is a specific hell trying to figure out what release is what version without having a master look up table to consult.

[–] bilouba@jlai.lu 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't KDE "Kommon Desktop Environment" in reference to CDE "Common Desktop Environment" ?

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The name KDE was intended as a wordplay on the existing Common Desktop Environment, available for Unix systems.[6] CDE was an X11-based user environment jointly developed by HP, IBM, and Sun through the X/Open consortium, with an interface and productivity tools based on the Motif graphical widget toolkit. It was supposed to be an intuitively easy-to-use desktop computer environment.[7] The K was originally suggested to stand for "Kool", but it was quickly decided that the K should stand for nothing in particular. Therefore, the KDE initialism expanded to "K Desktop Environment" before it was dropped altogether in favor of simply KDE in a rebranding effort in 2009.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE

(TIL the creator of KDE studied at the same university as me!)

[–] bilouba@jlai.lu 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So cool! Thank you for your reply! ~~Do you know him personally?~~ (nevermind, I missed the TIL) I have so much good things to say about this project from my noob perspective. I wish I could contribute some day!

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago

I love the Linux world's tradition of less serious names, in general.

Kinda like the Minds in Iain Banks's Culture universe.

[–] eRac@lemmings.world 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Similarly, VLC names their releases after Discworld characters. It's a fun way to make major versions feel like more than just a number increment.

[–] IrritableOcelot 12 points 2 months ago

For anyone else who was wondering, it's major releases only, and so far it's been:

  • The Luggage
  • Twoflower
  • Rincewind
  • Weatherwax
  • Vetinari

Not sure Havelock would look kindly at being left til 5th, but you can't please everyone.

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The Vorbis audio codec was also named after Vorbis from Small Gods, the 13th Discworld book.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's contested but still very cool (and the people who disagree are wrong)

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Xiph.org foundation themselves say that's where the name came from.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Right, it's the Ogg part I was thinking of.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 2 months ago

I love that Theora is called that after the controller in Max Headroom played by Amanda Pays.

[–] dwemthy@lemdro.id 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does that make Ogg Vorbis some kind of twisted shipping?

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 3 points 2 months ago

Ogg was apparently not named after Nanny Ogg, no matter how awesome that'd be.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

Huh TIL! That's cool

[–] corvus@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How many years until they run out of characters?

[–] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Plenty, as well as the upcoming release of Toy Story 5.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And if they ever run out of Toy Story characters, the Marvel universe has thousands of other characters...

Not to mention other Pixar film characters.

[–] curry@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

They'll be fine. Remember when we all joked about Covid-19 Omega variant a few years ago?

[–] jwt@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh they should definitely choose Rocky as name for the next Debian release.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That would probably cause confusion with Rocky Linux when googling.

[–] jwt@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago

Yes that was the point.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

That's what I thought. I think the most popular name they have actually used is Jessie.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 months ago

Especially when you realise main releases happen every five years, or so

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And when will they release 'Hooker'?

[–] corvus@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

Debian 69?

[–] The_Zen_Cow_Says_Mu@infosec.pub 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

unfortunately there's no rhyme or reason to the naming. which came first: bookworm, buster, or bullseye? They should just use numbers.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Still better than Ubuntu's Horny Herring naming scheme.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But to its credit its alphabetical

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 months ago

And memorable!

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

And has been for so long, they already went through it once

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

They do

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah, they should have used the names in alphabetical order, like Ubuntu with their codenames.

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Numbers give the wrong impression that one version follows another. Debian release channels exit alongside each other individually. Giving the release channels names helps to make that distinction. It also makes for an easy layout of packages in APT repositories.

Sid is and always has been Sid. If you were to assign numbers, what number should replace that name? There are perfectly working labels for release channels and there is no reasonable replacement.

[–] Cargon@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

R releases all have code names that are Peanuts references, like "Bunny Wunnies Freak Out".

[–] emhl@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

Their mailing lists used to be hosted by pixar as well

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I ran Sid for years, I knew what it was named for and that was cool.

Lately though I have been wondering if they are going to run out of characters? Maybe it's time to latch onto something else? I don't know..

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Disney releases new movies with new characters pretty quickly. I don't think they have even exhausted the first movie yet.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

how long until debian runs out of names and has to be "finished"