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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't think anyone answers the phone now, unless they recognize the number.

Most of the calls I get are

  • spam
  • spam
  • someone sent me a time sensitive message, so they ring me once to respond faster
  • spam
[–] echo@lemmings.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm early gen-x and I only answer the phone if its a member of my immediate family and even then it's 50/50. Capitalism ruins everything. Need to talk to me? Leave a message and I'll decide if and when to call you back.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Everyone I want to talk to knows not to call me; I feel exactly the same. Phones used to be useful, but the sheer volume of telemarketers and scams have reduced it to uselessness. If it wasn't for 2FA occasionally requiring a phone number, I wouldn't even have one at this point.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 6 points 2 months ago

You don’t always have a choice as it is dictated by the service provider, but whenever possible, disable SMS based MFA and enable TOTP or something else. SMS based MFA is susceptible to SS7 MitM attack.

[–] ReversalHatchery 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Same. In the last few years (2-3 probably, I don't count) I don't think I have given it out anywhere. I just pretend to not have a phone number, and if people think that's weird I don't care, deal with it. Nowadays if a service requires my phone number, I don't need that service. Or in rare cases I'll try to find a free online number for receiving a code, but that's the only alternative I take.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago

2FA

Use an authenticator or Yubi key. SMS authentication is the worst possible method.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

American? I'm from The Netherlands and I get maybe 1 spam call every other month or so. And I've been using the same number for almost 25 years.

[–] Midnitte 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Must be nice to a functional telecommunications agency that has the tools to punish soammers.

[–] belated_frog_pants 4 points 2 months ago

Oh we do too. Verizon and att make money off of selling the scammers our phone numbers and they wont spend the money to stop it

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Canada, we face the same issues as the US for telecom stuff

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Settings>Do not disturb>exceptions>Caller in contacts

alt: Set default ringtone to silent, no vibration, Set people in contacts to custom ringtones.

[–] colournoun 1 points 2 months ago

Also on iOS: Settings > Phone > Silence Unknown Callers

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Lucky me I rarely get spam calls

[–] belated_frog_pants 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Spam has destroyed the phonecall. I screen everything and people know to text me first.

Besides its rude to think you can just interrupt someone in the middle of what they are doing without asking via text first anyway.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

I view phoning someone like popping over to their house and knocking on the door to chat with no prior warning. No one likes that.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've been nervous of phoning people since long before cellphones were invented, precisely because it always seemed rude to make someone's phone ring and demand a conversation when they're in the middle of whatever they're doing. It's interesting to see more people coming to see it like this.

[–] Tiltinyall 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would flat out ignore the pony express rider when he came galloping up with all that noise and dust. Who does he think he is?

[–] Krejall@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 months ago

Is that not what the post office is for? Were pony express riders stopping at every individual farm and cabin?

[–] trk@aussie.zone 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

"A voice note is just like talking on the phone but better," says Susie Jones, a 19-year-old student. "You get the benefits of hearing your friend's voice but comes with no pressures so it's a more polite way of communicating".

Gross, voice notes are the worst of both worlds.

Text for things that are information critical, phone calls for things that are time critical.

Email for business (and keep the original chain going instead of starting a new one every time you think of something else to add!), text messages for associates, chat apps for friends and family.

Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

[–] Midnitte 2 points 2 months ago

I mostly agree, but I think voice notes for close friends/family probably have a point.

At this point, I would also argue that texts/emails are also for time critical things since voice calls are essentially dead at this point.

99.99999% of the phone calls I get are spam. I haven't gotten a new voice mail in like 6 months.

[–] belated_frog_pants 2 points 2 months ago

They are the worst unless you want to hear that person's voice.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago

A recent survey found a quarter of people aged 18 to 34 never answer the phone - respondents say they ignore the ringing, respond via text or search the number online if they don't recognise it.

As they should.

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 23 points 2 months ago

I can't speak for others but as an older millennial, I grew up liking spending time on the phone with friends and loved ones. However in my adult life, I spent being anxious waiting for phone calls regarding job interviews and outcomes of them, and even being interviewed on some of them, including those without much notice. I also had to make calls to follow up things urgently or if I'm in trouble. As a result, I started to equate phone calls as mostly negative experiences.

[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

99% of phone calls is typically a capitalistic company forcing employees to sell us something.

So yes... I'm not gonna pick up. Leave a voicemail 👍

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

99% of phone calls is typically a capitalistic company ~~forcing employees~~ using chatbots to sell us something.

employees are so 2010, FIFY

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, boomers will spend hours talking to a ChatGPT script that has convinced them its the real Oprah Winfrey.

[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

hahahahaha im dying idk why youre getting downvoted

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

Well obvs the bots got offended

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

It's pretty obvious why lol.

90% of the calls I receive are spam.

Calling demands that I pick up the phone RIGHT THE FUCK NOW. Bitch, if it ain't a life threatening emergency I'm not dropping everything I'm working on for you.

Texting allows me to respond when it's convenient for me.

Text generally takes 3 seconds to get the point across instead of having a whole conversation about it

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

honestly i think this is due to unplanned voice calls essentially being broken technology now.

imagine we had 2020s email spammers while mail servers had 1990s spam filters, that's basically where we're at now with unplanned voice.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Texting is also damn convenient, I can deal with several conversations at once without having to pause the movie I'm watching.

Speaking on the phone doesn't just tie your line, it ties your whole life too.

[–] Dymonika 1 points 2 months ago

Sure works wonders if you're busy with a chore. Laundry? Dishwashing (for the unfortunate souls without easy access to a dishwasher)? That's the best time to call any yakker you know!

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

I'm an older millennial. I enjoyed talking on the phone until I was something like 12. Texting wasn't a big thing yet then, but messengers on the internet were. So I realized there were better ways of communicating.

When I was in college, I was hit by a car. I was poor and had no health insurance. That led to endless calls from debt collectors. That led to anxiety related to the sound of a phone ringing. I have not answered the phone to unknown numbers since then. My life is better for it.

I only occasionally listen to voicemail, and most of the time, it's a doctor's appointment automated reminder. The rest of the time, it's usually spam. No point listening.

Anyone who knows me and needs or wants to get in touch with me knows how to do so and knows not to do so by phone call. Anyone else is unimportant.

[–] millie 7 points 2 months ago

I literally don't set up my voicemail, and I typically don't listen to recorded audio that gets messaged to me. Texting is functional and doesn't leave me some anxiety-provoking message that I have to sit through and digest without saying anything. If a conversation needs to happen in voice, text to say that and see if it's a good time.

Wild that people just ring a personal phone number unprompted in 2024 without that being an established routine.

That said, I also remember when it wasn't at all weird to show up to someone's house and knock on their door. Things have really changed.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Eh. Gen-x here. I still have an hour long phonecall over signal with my best friend over signal two times a week or so.

In my teens I wasn't too happy about making phonecalls either, but working on a helpdesk for a while sure cured that.

On the other hand, I live in a country with consumer protection, so robocalls are not a thing. And I'd strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger (and GDPR) those companies who attempt to poison and destroy my personal attention.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago

I always answer the phone.

Because if you're not in my contacts my phone doesn't even ring.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I mean, maybe a hot take, maybe not … casual/social voice conversations at a distance were never a good idea in the first place.

Not absolutely at least. A disconnected voice that can summon your attention at any time wherever you are is a weird, uncomfortable, unpleasant and maybe unhealthy thing.

Textual communication at a distance odd much more natural, as it matches the disconnected communication with a more formal and abstract medium.

I get called like once or twice a week, and it's usually something time sensitive or important. Always found people just flat out refusing to answer the phone crazy.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't really get the whole not answering the phone thing. I hate phonecalls but I always answer my phone.

The amount of important calls I'd have missed if I buried my head in the sand like that is insane.

Sure if 90% of the calls were sales or scams I'd think differently, but there are ways to prevent that too.

I find it weird that everyone has their phone on silent all the time too. If mine was on silent I'd never look at it unless I'm bored.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You realize that it still vibrates when on silent, so you know when you’re getting a text or phone call right?

Only if it's right by you or isn't in your bag or something. Hence audible alerts, they break through the physical barriers.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Important news almost never comes via phone call. It comes in the mail or via email.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to the delivery driver that called me because they were outside with my groceries.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get those notifications via text message.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cool, with the phone on silent (which I don't do) I'd have missed that too, and would have been cancelled and rescheduled.

This adamant denial that phone calls are useful is weird.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

I never said they're not useful for anyone. They're not useful for me.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I don’t mind a ‘phone call’ so long as it isn’t actually using a phone number where ISPs can spy, but using some encrypted service.