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Similar to the time Soviet Russia wanted to join the anti-Soviet alliance which was trying to pretend wasn't made to plot against the soviets.

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[โ€“] calabast@lemm.ee 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I meaaaan, while I did join Lemmy because I was sick of reddit the company's greedy decisions, I do miss the amount of users and content it has/generates. If reddit joining the fediverse meant they couldn't dictate what app I use to view their posts, I probably would enjoy being able to browse their content again.

[โ€“] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

You can kinda already do that, apps like rdx, Stealth, and Geddit pull reddit content without using the API. You can't vote/comment, but you can still follow communities that have worthwhile content.

[โ€“] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Same tbh idk if it's the community or the app for me

[โ€“] mp3@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

~~I'LL~~ I WON'T BE BACK

[โ€“] Arelin@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 month ago

Lemmy.world already exists unfortunately

I do miss some of the subreddits though

[โ€“] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 month ago

OK, I'll get stoned for saying this, but I'd welcome it if done properly.

It's a large user base, lots of niche communities.

The more complicated part would be moderation, as that's already a problem now. Also, resources may be a problem.

[โ€“] neidu2@feddit.nl 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Add their instance to my block list

[โ€“] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago
[โ€“] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As long as it didn't pollute the fedi timeline with ads, AI slop and partnered posts, that'd be OK to me... (If someone worrying about our posts/comments being used by AIs, it's already happening even for those instances that does not federate with Threads; Proofs? Once I searched for my own username and I got surprised on how my fediverse posts are spread all across the results through federated instances that I never heard about, so if my fedi content shows on Google, it's certainly being fed to some AI datasets)

people just dont understand how public the fediverse is.

[โ€“] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The same way we dealt with threads. Defederation.

[โ€“] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago

I'd be very down to be able to subscribe to a couple select subs back there.

But I'd also be a bit disappointed because several Reddit communities have fediverse versions that are just nicer to be in, and I'm not so sure they'd survive if people could just go interact with the reddit equivalents via federation.

Wdym, reddit already joined fediverse, it's called lemmy.world.

[โ€“] Alice 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I'd be happy. I know Reddit as a whole sucks, but there are individual communities that still hold value. I miss active communities for niche crafts, I miss fandoms, and I miss actual life-changing shit like trans DIY, especially for countries outside the US.

I mainly stopped using Reddit because they killed third-party apps. If I could access Reddit from here, that'd be a pretty sweet deal for me.

[โ€“] themoken@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

I agree, as much as I hate Reddit's leadership and a lot of the toxicity of the hivemind, it will be a long time before anything reaches the level of niche communities it has with a critical mass of users and I miss some of them.

Sometimes you just want to geek out about something small with the 40 people across the planet that actually care about it.

it wont happen, that would basically be broadcasting reddit content to servers whose intention is to offer it up the public for free (no ads).

if we cant utilize their api without paying through the nose, there is zero chance theyll let activitypub do it for free.

[โ€“] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

They can do what they want, but if they want my contribution, they play by our rules.

Free, public API to support 3rd party readers. None of this paid API extortion, ads, super upvote monetization nonsense. AI generated stupid discussion communities I will block on sight.

More vibrant and active niche communities I will be happy to receive but I do like things as they stand too.

That's the same as asking how we would feel if Facebook decided to join the fediverse. The way instances reacted to that, would be the way they'd react to reddit, or twitter, or any of the enshitified tech giants.

[โ€“] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago

Would be among the first to suggest a reddit-defederation pact to be honest.

Kinda like how peeps on Mastodon/Misskey/etc. have their anti-threads pact.

[โ€“] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

lemmy.world is already federated

[โ€“] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cool. Biggest reason I quit reddit was I hate was them enforcing their dumb layout. While there exists other reasons like powermods, If I can visit it through mastodon or lemmy; why not really?

[โ€“] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

I'd start consuming content that originates on Reddit again, for one thing.

[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Federating with Reddit completely idiotic for any Lemmy instance.

They will only gain limited traffic, and their userbase will be swamped by Redditors.

There is zero incentive for Lemmy admins to do this, and huge incentives not to do this.

This would be a horrible thing because, even if we get more communities here, reddit now would have the vast majority of the fediverse in their hands. It would only be a matter of time before reddit would pull a microsoft to try and extinguish it.

[โ€“] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

I don't think they would do that unless Lemmy continues to grow to a point where it challenges Reddit. Then it becomes a technical issue. I don't think they can do that. It was one thing for threads to do it, being designed with that in mind from day 1, but it's completely different for Reddit to do it. There are so many features that just wouldn't make the jump, and so much content that would need to be reworked.

If they were going to do it, it would most likely be a clean break where you just can't access old Reddit content on Lemmy, but all their new stuff would be accessible.

I also just don't see them giving away their content like that after cracking down on the API how they did.

[โ€“] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Poorly, I left for a reason.

[โ€“] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Long as none of them were given mod powers, nbd

[โ€“] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If they do, I surely wouldn't trust Spez to be acting in good faith. I would expect them to Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish the fediverse

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

You're looking for Lemmy.world, and the answer is that it swallows up the larger part of the main federated instances, and becomes one of the worst instances.

[โ€“] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I'd use it again from my home instance. It would be a show of good faith that they're letting people integrate with their API again, even if that API is just the standard activity pub one.

I would love it because there are subreddits I use a lot on reddit that don't have an active equivalent on lemmy at all.

The amount of bots, spam and other problematic content would be overwhelming for admins to moderate, most instances would just defederate on day 0.

[โ€“] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

It cannot because of copyright constraints. It sells it's data to others.

But look, if Reddit did, at least people could use third party and free apps.

[โ€“] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reddit clearly spends like $6 per year on feature engineering so this would require around one millennia to implement.

[โ€“] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only community I cared about on refit was r/Korea because I was a new migrant here. But I got banned for posting a link to my own website where I uploaded this video https://tube.jeena.net/w/aBpFLKq3x2r9R3aSrBtece which I myself recorded. They said I should have uploaded it to YouTube instead and was banned for ever.

Now I try to build up !korea@lemmy.funami.tech and it's not going great, basically only lurkers there :D but that's OK. I'm still so but hurt about being banned that I don't want them here anyway.

[โ€“] ego_death@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[โ€“] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 1 month ago

No just a posting ban on my username. But I'm not an asshole to circumvent it, if they block me then they don't want me there and then they don't deserve me contributing there.

[โ€“] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm here mostly because the implementation is superior. If Reddit was accessible directly from here, it'd be a total win-win imho.

It would also be a lose-lose for them, as it would open up their data to free-of-charge use via API without any benefit for them -- so it's not going to happen.