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Organic Maps is the best open source Maps App I've ever tried (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 3 months ago by tootnbuns@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/android@lemdro.id
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It's essentially an open source fork of maps.me by the original creators.

I've been using OSMAnd for years, but it always felt laggy and not that reliable. Searching was slow and so on. Many street or things it didn't instantly find.

In the Graphene App Store I jnust discovered Accrescent (another app store thing but only with like 10 apps - they're all gold though, god damn)

An in there I found organic maps. And this shit is google maps level responsive. If you're on the lookout for a google maps replacement - consider trying this.

Byeeee

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[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 33 points 3 months ago (6 children)

For driving I recommend Magic Earth, it's based on OSM data but uses proprietary traffic information as well

[–] smokinliver@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you can see that organic maps is sadly not there yet in terms of driving-interface, but hopefully its getting there soon.

Afaik the app is far younger than magic earth and for what it is its super good. I'm so stoked to see how organic maps is gonna develop in the coming years

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I second magic earth for driving. The only reason I haven't entirely removed Google maps from my phone yet is because magic earth doesn't have data on business hours. This is the last killer feature I'm waiting for.

In the meantime I'm routing for any open source map that can do live traffic and business info.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago

Honestly, I uses organic maps and if its not mapped I just go on the business website. Fuck google, thats why!

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

Could just use yelp or a browser for business hours.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

I use gmap wv for that. It's just the web view of google maps but works better than Firefox and easier to pull up when osm fails. Navigation obviously doesn't work but should satisfy your use case.

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Interesting. Do you happen to know where it gets its traffic data from? I haven't yet personally found anything nearly as useful as Waze.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

They collect location of their users but anonimize every data on device, they can't track anyone personally. They also sell their SDK to businesses and collect data from there as well.

[–] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

From reading the Magic Earth FAQ, I believe the user data actually isn't used for traffic at all (at least the manually reported events certainly aren't).

Edit: never mind I missed a later part in the FAQ:

Do you share data with third parties?

We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes.

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[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My experience with Waze was inferior to Organic Maps.

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 1 points 3 months ago

Interesting. How so?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Proprietary software that collects my data, no thanks. It was fine when there weren't any alternatives but that isn't the case anymore.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How will they get traffic data if they don't get the data of their users? I understand being privacy conscious, but some data collection can actually make sense.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They don't

I don't want my location tracked all the time always

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If we don't need traffic Information Organic maps is fine too. It now even says where you have to turn which is a major improvement.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It now even says where you have to turn

Only if the map has road lanes defined. That means: everybody join OpenStreetMap and map your local area! :)

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didnt knew that. Good that I regularly try to add more data to OSM.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 3 months ago

If you use Android, there's a fun app called StreetComplete that helps you adding details to your neighbourhood

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[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Idk ... In their description on f-droid they crossed out "no pesticides" and wrote "purely organic" ... It implies they are using organic pesticides. Not sure if that's something for me tbh.

Edit: screenshot added

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Caffeine and nicotine are legit organic insecticides, that might be a deeper joke about coffee and cigarettes powering development

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

Great point of view

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is pretty solid. It lacks some advanced features such as routing around preset areas but that's a minor complaint.

Aldo it is only as good as OSM. Get to work on the map.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Also the search doesn't work, so there is that...

Also using it in android auto is a pain and every action takes between 10x and 100x longer than on the phone.

But yeah it is pretty good and I try to contribute to it when I can. I don't know how to contribute to bad instruction translations though. It just says "verlaat" on an exit in dutch which grammatically makes no sense.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

You should open an issue

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I noticed that it only downloads local maps initially. You can download more maps and expand the area that it searches in. Maybe this is why you are having issues with searches? I assume that if you search for a place in a map that it hasn't downloaded it may have trouble finding it.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago

Nope. I type in SPAR and it gives me a bunch of random results 150km away.

I type in Grocery and it gives me SPAR 1.5km away.

I need to type in the exact address for it to find a place, with no errors. Otherwise I can type a category name and hope that it finds it and that I guessed right, that also works.

If you type in a partial name (I.e. not the full legal name including company abbreviations) of a store it will break itself and show you completely random unrelated results from a random place in the country.

I took a bunch of screenshots a while back as proof.

It is fundamentally broken, and it is widely reported IIRC, but I don't know if there are any issues open about it.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 months ago

Does it know how to navigate NYC public transit? That's a big use case for me. I don't need driving directions. I need to know which subway is closest.

[–] CynicusRex@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the share, had no idea. It felt so nice that I already added two contributions to OpenStreetMap.

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wow that genuinely looks unbelievable!

It's like an old mall or whatever map except without you are here and movable!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

What until you discover OSM (that's what Organic maps uses)

[–] shekau@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

Yep, the best of the best :)

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

It's also improving really fast. Organic Maps has a great community of developers.

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

It is nice app but the problem is it doesn't show Czech hiking and cycling routes by default. I didn't figured out how to enable them.

[–] thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Too bad OSM (and by extension this app) doesn't have public transport directions...

[–] tootnbuns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Word. That's one of the things where osm gets smashed by this app

[–] petrescatraian@mstdn.ro 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@thegreenguy It doesn't, but if you're lucky, your city might have a transit app itself (mine does). Even if chances are that it's not open source either, you'll still be able to cut your dependency to Google to a certain extent.

@tootnbuns

[–] thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

Yup, where I'm currently living has a great public transport app, even works without Play Services!

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[–] tootnbuns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

After a few days of use - as a cyclist - I only have one note. I'm missing the cycling style option from OSM. That's a real game changer right there.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 3 points 3 months ago

In Berlin it was missing some public transportations like tram

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Downloaded because of this post, it is very good!

[–] scaryjelly@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I always felt drawn back to G-Maps until a few months ago when a friend recommended this app. Organic Maps is gorgeous!

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

so i opened this app for the first time just now and entered my address, but it only went to my street. when i tap my house, it just says "building".. is there no residential support?

[–] imblue@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

Depends in where you live. For instance in Germany house numbers are associated with the building but in France house numbers are their own object. The Idea there being that one should map the location where the plate with the houseumber is, and not the building(s) its associated with. If you dig throug osm map forums or issue trackers you'll find the dispute resurfacing every now and then.

[–] tvik@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

100% agree with this post. Mostly using google maps now for car route planning (still unbeatable in rerouting in case of car accidents etc. afaik).

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

Does it do navigation with routes based on current traffic conditions? Because that's table stakes to me.

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