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Canonical’s announced a major shift in its kernel selection process for future Ubuntu releases. An “aggressive kernel version commitment policy” pivot will see it ship the latest upstream kernel code in development at the time of a new Ubuntu release.

Original announcement: Kernel Version Selection for Ubuntu Releases

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[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ubuntu was first os I really stuck with for years... It's weird the shifts they made in the past. The horrid Amazon search in unity shell was their first major misstep... And as much as I understand the snap shift, their implementation was balls. I was forced to jump ship when a work reliant version of Citrix somehow completely would break app armor...

I don't know what I intended to really say in this post... Just typing out loud I guess.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a great entry point for people too intimidated to try something like Pop!_OS, Mint, Aurora, elementaryOS, etc. But for some reason, the people who wind up in places like this tend to use anything but Ubuntu, it seems...

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

Usually because they've tried Ubuntu and found it lacking.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Great. Now Linux Mint will have to start providing their own kernels too, as they were following Ubuntu's way of choosing a kernel version.

Will this be the final nail in the coffin that will make LMDE the main edition, or will they just follow what Canonical is doing in that case? I'm genuinely curious for their response.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 11 points 3 months ago

I can see Mint just adopting “Latest Ubuntu LTS, work latest Linux LTS” as their choice strategy. They've usually preferred older but more stable kernels and drivers before, anyway.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with linux mint, why?

Also they can switch to debian base relatively easily

[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 16 points 3 months ago

From my understanding the Mint most ppl use/are familiar with is Ubuntu-based.

Linux Mint LMDE is the Debian base! 😎 love LMDE so far!

from the site: What is LMDE?

LMDE is a Linux Mint project which stands for "Linux Mint Debian Edition". Its goal is to ensure Linux Mint can continue to deliver the same user experience if Ubuntu was ever to disappear. It allows us to assess how much we depend on Ubuntu and how much work would be involved in such an event. LMDE is also one of our development targets, as such it guarantees the software we develop is compatible outside of Ubuntu.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly just switch to Arch at this point, dare I say Arch is easier and users friendly than Ubuntu

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

dare I say Arch is easier and users friendly than Ubuntu

No, please stop trying to fool Linux beginners into starting out with Arch.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No I don't, I'm only using arch for 5 months and I basically already know how to get around the os even managed to fix every problems with the help of arch wiki and I can get every softwares I want from the AUR pretty easy but on Ubuntu sometime I had to add repositories to download some softwares also Arch is truly maintained by the community and Ubuntu is mostly Canonical and community

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 9 points 3 months ago

And how long did you use other non-Arch Linux distros before then?

Arch maybe a great distro, but it's not a beginner friendly one.

[–] PancakeBrock@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

For years i've tried different distros on and off. Really liked arch on the steam deck and decided to give it a try. Haven't used windows in over a year. Don't know what it was but I'm loving arch with kde. Had a couple of things i had to figure out but all in all it was simple to get going.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 7 points 3 months ago

How many engineers can Canonical yeet now that they can skip on testing and backporting fixes to their own stable kernel?

Are they also going to tell Joe average user to just submit any bugs to LKML?

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Compiling a kernel yourself isn't a big deal these days, especially with DKMS. Generally the type of people I've encountered who care about which kernel version they're usiyare the type of people who are capable of compiling it themselves...

[–] TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I've found that is shifting a bit as a lot of newer hardware needs kernel support, and as new people with newer devices enter the linux world they can encounter issues. I know I've had to wait for feature to make it to the kernel before I got it for some newer hardware. It can be frustating especially if it's something essential or realky desirable. Even more so if you aren't tech savvy.