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Because hey we already got your money and doing the right thing doesn't line my already full pockets.
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Yes, but then who will dare to buy from them in future?
Frankly? Most people.
Most people are really dumb about this type of thing.
Most people will never hear of this.
Anyone who ritualistically buys Dell. I believe Intel is on the record as having called Dell "the best friend money can buy."
You don't really have much of a choice in the high end laptop world. Maybe this will be enough to push manufacturers to put AMD CPUs into high end workstations. I'd kill for a Thinkpad P1 with AMD.
I'd love an AMD P1 as well. I just bought a P1 after looking at their offerings for a while and while I did look into their AMD offerings they just seemed to have intentionally neutered them.
They absolutely do. I know the X1 carbon was co designed with Intel so you can't get an AMD X1, but I don't think the P1 was.
Also which P1 did you get? I'm contemplating trying to find a fully loaded gen 6, or maybe going with the gen 7/8 (whenever that comes out).
I got a Gen 5 - 21DDS70700 from Newegg shortly before the Gen 7 was released. I originally bought a refurbished higher end model from their outlet store but they sent the wrong model so I returned it. It is built and performs well and has a great screen and keyboard.
Have you done any stress tests on the system? And if you did did you monitor CPU power?
I have a gen 4 and at least whenever the CPU and GPU are active the CPU runs absurdly slow. I havent tested just CPU loads, but rendering a video where the CPU was 100% loaded and the GPU was about 5% loaded my CPU would drop to only 25 watts and throttle hard. With throttlestop I'm able to get 35 watts at the very most out of my CPU for long loads. I'm curious of they've done anything for the newer models so the CPU can actually stretch it's legs. It really sucks buying this i9 but having it perform worse than an i5. Even if there's PLENTY of thermal headroom.
I have not. I'm mostly doing webdev on it and it works fine for that. I honestly don't even need the dedicated GPU. If there's something you'd like me to run lmk and I'll see if I can find time for it. I'm running Debian stable on it and it's the i7-12700H with an RTX A1000 and 32GB 4800MHz RAM version.
Honestly I think any CPU stress test is enough for it to start to choke sooner or later. It's just faster with the GPU active. If you have video editing software you could render a long video with CPU rendering. If not I'm sure any furmark like stress test + yes > /dev/null a number of times is plenty.
The biggest thing is that it takes time. Sometimes it starts after 5 minutes, sometimes it's 20 minutes, sometimes it could be longer depending on the load. Since you're on linux IDK if lenovos tuning of TDP would apply, so you might get higher 35 watts like I can if I manually override their power limits.
I pretty much only use the GPU if I'm traveling and want to play a game. Normally I just want the CPU to do things and it's fine using 55+ watts for short loads, but I tax the shit out of my CPU for long periods of time and only 25 watts sucks on 11th gen Intel.
Neat, guess I'm going AMD for my next build.
You and everybody else.
Me who chose the AMD Ryzen version of a laptop last year instead of Intel Raptor Lake because it was $10 cheaper:
Can’t wait for Steve’s next video. Oh boy.
HANG ON BEFORE YOU HIT THE DOWNVOTE BUTTON!
They don't need a recall. If your processor ain't broke yet then the patch will (supposedly) prevent it from breaking and if it's ALREADY broke then Intel will (supposedly) replace it via RMA.
So what's the big fuggin' problem here? That Intel won't use the term "recall"?
So what's the big fuggin' problem here? That Intel won't use the term "recall"?
Would you say the same thing about a car?
"We know the door might fall off but it has not fallen off yet so we are good."
The chances of that door hurting someone are low and yet we still replace all of them because it's the right thing to do.
These processors might fail any minute and you have no way of knowing. There's people who depend on these for work and systems that are running essential services. Even worse, they might fail silently and corrupt something in the process or cause unecessary debugging effort.
If I were running those processors in a company I would expect Intel to replace every single one of them at their cost, before they fail or show signs of failing.
Those things are supposed to be reliable, not a liability.
Class action lawsuit, but demand entire company to be put under disqualification from operating for some time instead of just wanting money that will amount to you getting like 10€.