It's so refreshing to have the trickle of constant bad news turn into a trickle of constant good news
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The tide feels like it's turning.
Yeah, like the flow has been... uh, I mean...
Nah, fuck it. This metaphor has run it's course.
We're getting our country back.
Good. The more renewable energy the better!
What are you on about? This is not a policy by the greens, but one MP. Ramsay said '..110 miles of cabling using 50m high pylons will “destroy our historic landscapes and will require huge loss of trees”.' An MP who cares about his constituence!? The horror!!
He suggested that they should do a thorough analysis and consultation before going forward. Maybe the silicon valley mantra of 'move fast and break things' shouldn't be applied to our green future policies.
He is the co-leader of the Greens, so it's fair to say that he speaks for the party.
He is opposed to a policy which has already been thoroughly consulted on. The consultation found that the only alternatives would be to bury the lines, which would be more environmentally destructive, or do nothing, which would be more environmentally destructive. So, yes, he is opposed to green infrastructure, which is sadly quite consistent with the actual record (as opposed to the rhetoric) of the Green party.
EDIT: I should have added, the demand for endless 'consultations' is a well-worn delaying and blocking tactic. But it's especially hypocritical of the Greens who constantly use the (accurate!) rhetoric that we're in a 'climate emergency' to win votes.
He is the co-leader of the Greens, so it's fair to say that he speaks for the party.
I think the green party operates differently to other parties. They have a leader (two leaders) but don't enforce any rules or leadership structure. Their members are allowed to disagree with the leadership that isn't a leadership. Even the leader himself.
But they do elect leaders, as I understand, to act as spokespeople, and in this case they've elected as a spokesperson someone who's opposed to green infrastructure.
Another way of putting it is to say that at least 25% of Green MPs oppose green infrastructure.
I think it's a question of democracy against autocracy. You can either impose wind farms against local objections, or you can take a more difficult route and involve the local communities.
What I am saying is you can support green infrastructure, but only if it's sustainable and with consent of the local communiy.
That approach has just been tested to destruction under the Tories, who let local communities veto necessary, good, sustainable plans time and time again.
I thought that the Conservatives just banned onshore wind turbines regardless of sentiment on the ground.
They didn't actually ban them completely. The government advice added two tests to planning permission for onshore wind only, which in practice were near-impossible to overcome. Proposals had to have 'proved community support', which meant (or was taken to mean) that if anyone at all objected, they couldn't go ahead.
I suspect that will change with a quickness as they rise to prominence.
He is opposed to a policy which has already been thoroughly consulted on.
Wrong, I'm afraid it wasn't. national grid consultation
It seems like the pressure is working, because they agreed that the initial assessment wasn't enough: "We are also consulting on the preliminary findings from our environmental studies and assessments as well as proposed mitigation for any potential impacts to the local environment, including animal habitats and the local landscape."
In any case the local campaigners want more scrutiny and consultation from a third party. Which is their right if we like it or not.
As I said elsewhere, these endless consultations are a known blocking tactic. Nimby campaigners demand endless consultations but they are clearly acting in bad faith: they only accept the results when they agree with the nimby demands to build nothing. We have seen this over and over again. It is a big part of the reason we have a housing crisis and a stagnant economy. It's scandalous that the Greens are now using their parliamentary platform to continue to act how they have in local government: blocking necessary green development.
I don't disagree but damn this reads like a propaganda piece
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Last September, Michael Gove, then communities secretary, said the ban would be lifted; rules put in place by David Cameron in 2015 decreed that a single planning objection could scupper an onshore wind project.
Analysis of the government’s renewable energy planning database found that no applications for new onshore wind projects were submitted after Gove’s announcement.
The end of the ban was promised in Labour’s election manifesto and trailed by the new energy secretary, Ed Miliband, when he was in opposition, but campaigners were surprised by the speed at which it has been implemented.
Mike Childs, the head of science, policy and research at Friends of the Earth, said: “By ending the onshore wind ban in England, Labour is making an important stride towards delivering on our climate goals, while also paving the way for lower bills, as renewables produce some of the cheapest and cleanest energy available.
By harnessing the country’s vast renewable power potential, the new government is staking its claim as a global leader in the green energy transition.”
Dr Doug Parr, Greenpeace’s chief scientist, added: “As the recent gas price crisis shows, this ban was self-defeating for energy security, costly, and lost opportunities to cut emissions.
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