I was told that I was under the influence of demons! Which, to a child raised in a deeply religious household, will absolutely destroy any sense self-worth you have. Especially when the goal is to make you act like the complete opposite of who / what you simply are at your core.

Too bad for my parents, because now I both don't like people and have a burning hatred for religious establishments!

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I loved how mental healthcare was treated like satanism in the '90s. Especially by the religious.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

That's because mental health care threatens to dismantle the carefully crafted delusions the church has worked for millennia to establish.

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 months ago

With certain very rare exceptions to specific individuals...

Fuck the Boomers.

And their parents.

Signed "You'll never be able to function in normal civilized society with that attitude!"

Dick parfaits for the lot of em.

[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I was forced to adapt for survival but that doesn't mean it wasn't a struggle. Also I didn't do "fine" in school, though that's the front I put up. In reality I barely graduated high school and scraped by with like a 1.8 GPA, couldn't get into college, and got kicked out of community college. And I hurt a lot of people I cared deeply about along the way too.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 3 points 4 months ago

So similar.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago

It seems to me that mental health issues, including, but not limited to, ADHD, are being taken more seriously.

Previously, the lazy, slacker, troublemaker kids were just beaten until they did what they were told.

Yeah, I'd say the threat of violence is a pretty good motivator to overcome the symptoms of mental conditions, and at least mask so hard that people can't tell that you're a complete fucking mess, right up until the day that your mental health degrades so much that you off yourself.

Thanks.

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Read Neurotribes by Steve Silberman

One asshole at Hopkins, leo kanner, sat on neuridiversity info all through most boomer childhoods.

Their parents got blamed for it by their own depression-era parents.

There was only one way to be, only certain foods, everything else was either a sin or a personal failure. Those kids could not answer questions honestly, just repeat back the same approved cultural pablum that maga wants to go back to.

Simple has several meanings.

The only light was Dr. Spock, but too subtle for many readers, he had to couch things carefully in his time and the culture was deafening.

Only after Lorna Wing released her work in the 70s did it start to normalise for some Gen Xers.

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

*Mr. Spock 🖖

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dr. Benjamin Spock

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

lol i know, no reason to downvote 😅

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

I don't have downvoting.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Him too. Leonard Nimoy's character was a pretty good template for the "cool nerd"

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

I related to him strongly, but talking that way was outrageous at the time, when I did it I felt more at ease but people got angry.

I've wondered if Spock was a nod to Dr. Spock by Roddenberry, because he was a cultural icon at the time, including being roasted by comedians and newspaper columnists.

All this current environment happened in steps and leaps and with people building on previous work.

Bill W was going around with bottles of LSD to try to break addiction at 12 step meetings, beatniks led to hippies, the culture was cracking open at the seams, meanwhile all boomers are the same and never dealt with any personal or cultural struggles, since there were no protests about the war in Vietnam or musicians dying of overdoses or people shot at Kent State or the president then his brother being shot to death. No struggles at all.

In contrast, at that time neurodiversity was a small issue, it rarely made the papers in a time when even plain old gayness was shocking enough. When it did it was just filler about weird intractable kids in Dear Abby, no mention of leaded gas fumes and cigarette smoke everywhere people went, no thought of Agent Orange factories or burning rivers having anything to do with it...why can't these kids act normal?

A ND kid in the 60s was just laughable and weird and hopeless, nerd was not a nice word at all, no love in its usage.

Unless they shrugged resignedly and masked. People who were kids from that time still reflexively use NT behaviors as reference points, that's how one got through.

It wasn't a joke: I still have a chip missing from a front tooth from having my face rammed into the rail of a schoollbus seat.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 10 points 4 months ago

Kids are getting diagnosed with mental health issues, and I'm hearing a lot less about kids killing their parents...

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine how they treated Grandma as a child, then.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Grandma gets a lot of leeway from me, as she grew in WW1, lived through WW2 and was tortured during the civil war. She has hard as steel. For me it's still a funny story, especially since at the time I was hiding under a desk scream-crying "iiiiiiiiii" like a goddamn bombing alarm and she just wanted me to shut up :D

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is, physical violence against kids works to prevent symptoms of ADHD&autism from being too debilitating? Cause I'm not sure that's the message you wanna put out there.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

"works" is doing some heavy lifting here. ND people having to mask is stressful. It's not for our primary benefit, it's for others. It' "works" the same way that beatings "work" to prevent left-handedness.

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[–] restorante@social.linux.pizza 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

@db0 I am genuinely curious. Your post has no any tag, but why does it is on my 'hashtags' tab?

So far I can see three of your posts on the tab.

I am using Tusky.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Lemmy is adding the tags in the activitypub metadata which mastodon then correctly reads. The tags don't need to be in the text of the post for mastodon to parse them (neither do the reply usernames for that purpose). It's just that in your normal mastodon interface, it only parses things from your text, so you're used to seeing it there.

EDIT: In this specific case, you're seeing it in the #adhd tag, because it's tagged like this for being posted in the !adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com comm.

[–] restorante@social.linux.pizza 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

@db0 Ahhh I see. Yes, the hashtag tab contains 'adhd', 'mentalhealth', 'ocd', 'ptsd', 'depression' and 'anxiety'.

Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

When half my concentration in a given conversation goes to behaving "properly" (trying not to fidget, maintaining a hopefully appropriate amount of relaxed eye contact without staring, appearing attentive but relaxed), half goes to figuring out whether, how, when and what to contribute and I also have to listen and process the words because I occasionally struggle with understanding spoken language... yeah, sure, I may seem normal, but something somewhere is gonna drop off the radar.

Whether I say something appropriate or hit the right timing to chime in without either interrupting or being too late becomes (even more of) a gamble, which stresses me out and causes anxiety, further taking away focus and composure. Alternatively, I become quiet and feel more like an observer on the sidelines than a part of the conversation, isolated by my own struggles. Or I blunder and say something wrong and retreat to that isolation in shame. Or I don't really hear what you're saying, lose track of the conversation, am caught off-guard by the odd question cast my way, or simply retreat from trying to contribute because I don't even know what we're talking about, back into the same isolation.

I'm a chatty person. But I'm scared to chat with most people. Doing so leaves me either mentally or emotionally drained and upset. I hide away, retreat to the internet where I can better regulate my participation, make excuses not to attend company events, let social contacts slip away because maintaining them is too much stress, struggle to make doctor's appointments or call for a med refill...

If you think I seem normal - thanks for the compliment, I worked really hard on that facade. I'm glad it's working.

But inside, I die a little each time.