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[–] adhocfungus@midwest.social 12 points 4 months ago

The first thing I thought of reading this was how you could write the exact same about the rural midwest US. I was the only kid in my class who had ever seen a black person face to face, and that was because I lived in Florida first. My grandma still calls to warn us to stay inside if a non-white person is spotted near town (usually a utilities guy fixing power lines). They just have no experience with the wider world and know only the stereotypes they echo back and forth to each other.

The peace corp warning does a good job framing it as it is, but it's important to remember that "innocent" ignorance can still carry real violence and hatred.

[–] taanegl 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Damn... welcome to the Slavic region, I guess.

If there's a consolation price, at least you're not Roma - or as they're so "warmly" called, "the gypsies". They have snow 0% rights, especially in Romania, the country that has fucked the Roma people a thousand times over.

European racism is so fucking old world that it's not even nazi. Nazism is relatively fresh and young. This is old European imperialism.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not all "Slavic" countries are the same. Not all regions are the same. Western Slavs (Czech Republic), Southern Slavs (the Balkans), and Eastern Slavs (Russia) are all different. No one is going to call you the n-word in Prague any more than they would in America.

The issue with Ukraine is that they have no tourism from outside the region so even well meaning people will not know how to act. They might ask if you know LeBron James or whether you can play basketball, just to strike up a conversation. They literally don't know that's insulting.

Think about what you know about Ukraine:

  1. They're in a war.

  2. They like vodka.

  3. ...

[–] The_Che_Banana 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sunflowers/ sunflower oil is produced in abundance

wheat/flour also

chernobyl is there

Stalins soviet unión starved it's people to death

the people could have chosen a leader to lick putins ass, but instead chose democracy and voted in a former comedian

2016 (14?) armed forces looked like a cast off of old soviet era gear, they saw what was coming and changed/started modernización

And also one of my absolute favorite paintings is from there (the second one still is, they relocated it at the start of the war)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

Huh...im no scholar but i know a little more about Ukraine than i thought.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Right but that's also hard to start a conversation with. Like if you ask them, "Hey is Chernobyl really that bad?" they might get offended. The average Ukrainian is not proud of that.

[–] The_Che_Banana 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah thats not a good icebreaker. Like, "Soooooo.... 9/11, never forget, right?"

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

I worked with Ukrainian immigrants decades ago and found them all to be extremely easy to converse with. They do almost all the work for you and their sense of humour is top notch. TBH you really could ask that question and they'd laugh, make some quip, share their sandwich and next thing you know you're having dinner at their place tomorrow.

you're fundamentally wrong in two points, comrade.

  1. Romania isn't slavic. quiet obviously by its name alone.
  2. European racism really got traction in the 19th century with the popularisation of science and biologist pseudolegitmization of it. that isn't much older than nationalsocialist ideology.
[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Reminds me of the photos of Asians going to Africa and getting racially stereotyped for their eyes