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[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Now where is the shovel head maker, TSMC?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

Eh, they'll have plenty of demand for their nodes regardless. Non-AI CPUs and GPUs are still going to want them.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

meanwhile i just want cheap gpus for my bideogames again

[–] frezik@midwest.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

You can buy them new for somewhat reasonable prices. What people should really look at is used 1080ti's on ebay. They're going for less than $150 and still play plenty of games perfectly fine. It's the budget PC gaming deal of the century.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it probably the best performance per dollar u can get but a lot of modern games are unplayable on it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago

Lot of those games are also hot garbage. Baldur's Gate 3 may be the only standout title of late where you don't have to qualify what you like about it.

I think the recent layoffs in the industry also portend things hitting a wall; games aren't going to push limits as much as they used to. Combine that with the Steam Deck-likes becoming popular. Those could easily become the new baseline standard performance that games will target. If so, a 1080ti could be a very good card for a long time to come.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

not in my country lol. getting used cards were already the norm before, for a while you could literally only get used ones for a good price on aliexpress.

and now our gvmnt imposed 100% tax on anything from china, so its really just not affordable.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Could import from Taiwan instead?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

not really a good way. we can mostly only afford used and theres no outlet to buy used from taiwan that ships internationally in a trustworthy way.

brand new will probably be taxed too anyway.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can still look for used ones locally either through hardwareswap or fb marketplace (unfortunately thats the best secondhand marketplace atm). Other options include liquidation companies, sometimes universities also have a big market (from both staff and students)

Its been pretty rough still though, good luck on your search

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

no such thing as hardwareswap in my country. our marketplaces are overpriced because we want to resell our shit with prices proportional to what we overpaid for it.

importing used shit is cheaper because the value of, say, an rx580 is much lower outside the country.

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Yea lots of the secondhand tech market exists purely in the US. The market outside of there and a couple other countries (uk, ca, de) dont really exist afaik

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 41 points 5 months ago

Edited the price to something more nvidiaish: 1000009536

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget AMD, good potential if they bring out similar technology to compete with NVIDIA. Less so Intel, but they're in the GPU market too.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

Don't forget Qualcomm either.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Worst one is probably Apple. They just announced "Apple Intelligence" which is just ChatGTP whose largest shareholder is Microsoft. Figure that one out.

Well, most of the requests are handled on device with their own models. If it’s going to ChatGPT for something it will ask for permission and then use ChatGPT.

So the Apple Intelligence isn’t all ChatGPT. I think this deserves to be mentioned as a lot of the processing will be on device.

Also, I believe part of the deal is ChatGPT can save nothing and Apple are anonymising the requests too.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you think that’s the WORST ONE, you have no idea about any of this

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, if anything, Apple is behind the curve. Nvidia/AMD/Intel have gone full cocaine nose dive into AI already.

[–] ken27238@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

Not true. Most if not all requests are handled by apples own models on device or on their own servers. When it does use OpenAI you need to give it permission each time it does.

That's just not true. Most requests are handled on-device. If the system decides a request should go to ChatGPT, the user is promped to agree and no data is stored on OpenAI's servers. Plus, all of this is opt-in.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Serious Question:

Why is Nvidia AI king and I see nothing of AMD for AI?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago

Simple Answer:

Cuda

[–] megopie 5 points 5 months ago

So, AMD has started slapping the AI branding on to some of their products, but they haven’t leaned in to it quite as hard as Nvidia has. They’re still focusing on their core product line up and developing the actual advancements in chip design.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

I think it's in the pipeline. AMD has bought Xilinx, which builds FPGAs and already had some AI specific cores in their processors. I believe they're developing that further and integrating it in their GPUs now.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Well Nvidia sure did get rich quick

[–] urska@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Nvidia and IA technology are both legit. Those companies need nvidia GPU for their development.