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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 129 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He was trying to save his love by freezing everything and she wanted plants to become the dominant lifeform on the planet. So yes, we're rooting for the billionaire that has a better adjusted moral compass than those two yahoos.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thats just billionaire propaganda.

[–] blindsight 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The whole movie changes if it's a puff piece commissioned by Bruce Wayne after the fact...

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I would watch a Batman movie that's framed as propaganda by Bruce Wayne. At least it would be better than the trainwreck that was Batman & Robin.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 79 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Does killing the billionaire solve anything though? The system will just put some other stooge in his position instead. Systemic change is the only way to solve this.

[–] Sordid 17 points 5 months ago

I mean... if you play whack-a-mole long enough, eventually they'll get the message.

[–] Didros 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the revolution spiral out of hand, allowing Napoleon to seize power and crown himself emperor, leading to a series of wars that killed millions of people?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Look, it might have got a little out of hand but ask yourself:

Does the HRE or the French Monarchy still exist?

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Not since the Third Republic. But directly after Napoleon, power went back to the monarchy for like 50 years, so I'm not sure how much credit the guillotine deserves.

A 50 year relapse to eradicate an infection that lasted for 1300 years ain't bad.

The reality is the French Revolution is why most of Europe is democratic now, it demonstrated more than anything else until the Russian Revolution that the "commoners" could not only win a war against the entrenched nobility, but that those nobles should be very, very fuckin scared of the idea and maybe get on board with the idea of a constitutional monarchy if nothing else.

[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

The French Revolution is a very good example of violent revolutions not working. The terror was much worse than anything the ancien rΓ©gime had done, the country was plunged into a massive war and that shitshow was followed up by replacing the king with an emperor and ultimately with the restoration of the pre-revolution monarchy.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is what we are taught.
But what we want is to change the system. And those specific people of that specific class are what stands in the way of many/all.

Tl;dr: Ivy is a hero, the hero we need.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't think killing him will solve anything. It just changes the owners.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No but it might make the new owners think a bit.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

The thing is that we've gone through multiple generations of new owners each thinking a bit more than the last. Now they know how to appear decent while continuing to exploit earth, humans and other animals.

And people keep voting for their puppets.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

I think it's worth a shot.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 19 points 5 months ago

He throws great parties! He loves beautiful women, and many of them are on the younger side.