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Edit:

This is not intended as "how to grow all your food you ever need at home".

It merely provides the vegetables.

You still have to get your grains (and therefore the majority of your calories) from somewhere else.

geteilt von: https://lemmy.ca/post/22193783

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[–] yuri@pawb.social 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like the beekeeping is wasted effort if you’re going for self-sufficience.

It’d be like including a space for a liquor still. Super neat in concept, enormous effort in practice. Hell I’d be more in favor of the still over the beehives honestly, way more utility.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget that wax is super useful in a self-sufficient setup for prolonging the life of leather and wooden items. I've even used to protect my bike chain!

[–] yuri@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If I’m already getting the leather and wood from a neighbor, I reckon I’ll leave the bees to someone else as well! hahah

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are loads of fantastic personal benefits to living like this, like having choice of fruit and vegetables that aren't possible to find in supermarkets, no plastic residues from packaging on your food (and no plastic waste to dispose of), getting exercise, fresh air and vitamin D from working in the garden, less carrying groceries around, less need for refrigeration (many veg goes straight from garden to kitchen), health benefits of contact with soil and seasonal diet just to list the first ones that come to mind. Also if your children have contact with animals (even hair and dust left behind by animals) they are less likely to developed allergies. And you're also not helping already wealthy shareholders of food corporations to further out-compete working class people in the market.

It's an absolute winner.

Thanks, I thought the same thing.

Especially the "getting some physical exercise, and reconnecting with the soil" seem interesting upsides to me. We would all need some more of that in today's time it seems.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

1 acre = 43,560 sq ft

43,560 sq ft / 10 = 4356 sq ft

8 ft x 4 ft x 8 = 256 sq ft if you bunch all the beds up together

Honestly it's entire lot size is slightly larger than an average USA home family floorplan, but you're not gonna have any privacy and you're not going to feed the people more than once in a blue moon on that amount of homegrown.

And you want to live with BEES in that amount of space? Yeah, have fun.

[–] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

Haha, check out this guy, afraid of bees.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That house seems to be ~450 sq ft, that seem right?

Nevermind i misunderstood.

Yes, that house seems to be 500 sq ft

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[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

Living on .66 acres, this seems wholly unachievable for most people. In a perfect world, it's neat, but just not very realistic in most cases.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago

For those civilized in the ISO metric, 87' x 50' would be around 26.1m x 15m = 391.5m²

[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Am I blind, or is number 4 missing?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Growing enough grain to feed yourself takes 400 - 1000 m² depending on soil fertility.

So you can't do that in your backyard. It's also dramatically more efficient to harvest grains with big machinery, so it's wise to put it together with your neighbours and form something like a cooperative.

[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's like a 32m x 32m field, not as big as I was expecting. But yes, larger fields are more efficient. I wonder if there is some reasonable setup for farming grains with aquaponics. (Rice doesn't count XD)

Well yeah rice, xD

apart from that i'm not aware of anything.

Also beware, that grains need direct solar irradiation (they need to collect lots of energy, much more than vegetables), so stacking them on top of each other is not viable.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Where is #4?

[–] youRFate@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bergamot doesn’t really fit in with an herb garden.

[–] LallyLuckFarm 4 points 4 months ago

Bergamot is a good substitute for oregano and the flowers can be used for teas though

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Am I blind, or is 4 missing?

[–] Onihikage 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It says in the list that there's not enough space to produce a reasonable quantity. So you're correct, it's not there.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago

It says there’s not enough space for reasonable quantities, similar to 6, so I expected to see 4 on there, too, but with the caveat. I see what you mean, though, and it makes sense.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

That house is absolutely not to scale