I'm sure a Trump administration will really help the people of Gaza, the LGBTQ+ community, women's body autonomy, etc. I guess they want 2000 all over again.
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A lot of younger voters don't really remember 2000, where we had a protest vote going for Nader, which had the effect of throwing the election into the courts, enabling Bush to get them to install him in office.
hahahahahaha, these ridiculous childish bourgeois antisemites are gonna push the "we want the fascist back" button, ahahahahahahah
Keep laughing at the voters who actually care about distinguishing between anti-genocide and anti-semitism
Its fun to make this vote only about a single issue. It's more fun to vote for the guy everyone knows will do worse right away on that specific issue.
That'll make a point.
Bonus? It'll mess up pretty much everything else to varying degrees including the right to vote, so that's a cost that'll linger.
Good job.
Well said.
What's your reply to those who are already going to vote Biden (not me, ain't from the US)? Do you have any coherent reply other than "Trump is going to be worse"? At what point do people like you stop talking over Biden critics and actually address his misplaced support for Israel?
We already attempted this accelerationist approach in 2016 with Clinton and received Trump and things are much worse due to the 4 years of his first term. Trans rights, reproductive rights, minority rights, and so much more have been eroded in that time. Trump was also able to stack SCOTUS with conservative judges that will have lasting ramifications and two more justices are nearing retirement age in the next presidential cycle. If Trump is elected again, the court will become even more conservative with lasting ramifications that will nearly impossible to undo.
Trump has outright stated he wants Isreal to finish the job and Netanyahu supports him. Biden is not perfect, but literally abstaining from voting for him will make the situation immensely worse for both Gaza and here in the US. To ignore that reality shows ignorance in voting as a single issue voter and shows you have nothing to loose from your privilege. I don't have that grace as a woman in a red state now relagated as reproductive cattle nor do my Trans or Minority friends who just want to live as they are. Voting for Biden avoids the 2025 Handmaid's Tale that the Christian Right desperately wants and still gives us the ability to complain his actions are not enough for Gaza. With Trump that ability absolutely dissolves.
Biden ought to try to do something to get people to vote for him.
He's been doing things I like on a regular basis. Here's today's example
Hey good for you! We all have things we care about. Top of my list is not doing a genocide. To be fair, I'm not sure how important the anti-genocide bloc is. I'm sure Biden has people doing the math.
It's almost like he's trying to walk the line around restraining Netanyahu while also not creating a situation which enables Hamas to commit genocide. I can get behind that.
Especially when the Republican position is 'nuke the Palestinians'
Walking the line? Giving billions in lethal aid (very recent "pause" notwithstanding) to a country actively engaging in genocide, is just pragmatism? That's not convincing enough for me. "Hey Jack, we gotta give Israel military and political aid while they bomb children in a barrel, because if we didn't, 200 guys with AKs and unguided rockets might wipe out the most heavily armed and technologically advanced countries on earth!"
Well, I'm sure that voting Trump in (by not voting) is totally going to stop it.
This isn't a both sides bad thing - it's a one side bad, other side literally talking about using nuclear weapons thing.