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[–] kbal@fedia.io 123 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As well as Denuvo please also make it rely on Windows-only bugs so that we can be extra sure that those dirty Linux users are kept away, and it's not fair that foreigners get to enjoy things in their own language so make sure there's no localization for other countries. And I'd rather not have to know that disabled people can also play so make sure there's none of that "accessibility" crap in there slowing things down. And I heard that telemetry makes everything better so please make sure it records everything we do and reports it all back to headquarters, that really makes games better. Also it'd be nice if there were more ads to keep us entertained while it loads. Okay thanks. You guys are doing a great job. — Signed, a perfectly normal user

[–] Kraiden@kbin.run 32 points 6 months ago

signed, Hugh Mann

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 96 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Back when I was maybe seven years old I went to this kids birthday party. I got him an ant farm with tubes.

Later on when all the kids were playing together in his room without adults, he pulled the roll of clear plastic tubing out of ant farm box, he shoved one end up his ass and then started sucking on the other end.

It's nice to know that he is still alive and tweeting.

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm having a hard time envisioning the flexibility required to make that work. It couldn't have been both at the ends at the same time? Also, did this kid just get naked in front of everyone at their party? To each their own, I guess.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The clear plastic tubing was packaged in a roll, to be cut at whatever length the ant farmer wanted, so it was long enough to do standing up.

He didn't get naked, just put his hand down his pants. It was evident that he placed it either on his butthole, or up it, based on the effort he was taking.

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Ah, that makes sense. I was thinking more like a mini-m&m tube.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 months ago

It's his party and he'll strip if he wants to.

[–] NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Either that or the person was literally born yesterday.

[–] NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

fr, i'll stick with the former tbh

[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Damn. Consumerism really rots your brain, doesn't it.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 63 points 6 months ago

"Fuck them, I've got mine" pro-capitalist mindset in the wild.

[–] BioDriver 52 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Gabe Newell: "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 16 points 6 months ago

Steam pulled regional pricing from my country not so long ago. You bet your ass sales went way down and people who were buying games because it was easier just went back to pirating them at that point.

Like you expect someone in south America who makes a tenth of what someone in the US makes to pay the same prices (actually more than the same since this country has like 70% tax on "imported" digital services), get real

[–] Linnce@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

I wish the steam deck was available in my country

[–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if they would still hold that opinion if they were locked out of a game they paid $70 for, while the ones that got it for "free" can play it without any restrictions. Piracy is just as much a service issue as it is a money issue.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They already are throwing punches because they noticed people being less gullible than them. I'm guessing this would result in a "double down", like "The developers wouldn't have to kill this game if the pirates would have bought it."

[–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't referring to games being shut down. I was referring to how denuvo stops you from playing the game if it has issues phoning home for whatever reason. My hatred for denuvo began when it locked me out of monster hunter for 24 hours the one time I wanted to come back to playing it.

Ah, well, same spiel though. Also, fuck Denuvo.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 41 points 6 months ago

This just seems like an average troll. If the goal is to make everyone angry, it makes sense.

"If I have to be miserable, so does everyone else."

Yup, that's the kind of mindset a lot of these kinds of people have.

[–] Unabart@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 6 months ago

That seems to be written by a child.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago

Imagine simping for a billion-dollar corporation. I mean, I love Sony games, Uncharted, Horizon, Spider-Man, but I am not going to defend them. Their lives must be really awesome, if they stoop to simping to a corporation.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 months ago

This dude woke up and decided, blood.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago
[–] guts@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

Highly likely it is a bot

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And then piracy will be the only way to play as people do NOT like to deal with Denuvo (and for good reason)

[–] Trincapinones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 months ago

The "it's not fair we pay for these games for them to then be pirated" says it all, it's not about the company becoming bankrupt because of piracy, it's because they don't want to feel bad once they have been scammed with a half made game that others have gotten for free. Because a half made game should be worthless

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 16 points 6 months ago

Bootlickers are the worst

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

In case anyone actually wants to know a couple of reasons

A) It's not fair that some people pay and some don't. (Of course it's also not fair that some can afford $70 on a video game and some struggle to buy food)

B) If everyone would pay then we'd all only have to pay $50 each, lowering the price for those that are paying $70 at the moment. (Whether developers would lower prices or just make more money is another question)

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They'll literally never lower prices. Look at what prices for everything are right now. Their excuse was that covid was driving up prices, now that covid is over they realized they could charge more so here we are.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 2 points 6 months ago

750$ worth of dlcs that should had been features from the start anyone?

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

Naïveté. Its not devs that set the price. Publishers do not have your best interests in mind. They will always choose to make more money. They don't give a fuck about literally anything else.

The prices will never be lower. Purchasing no longer grants ownership. This is why piracy is justified in a lot of cases.

Support devs that respect the community. Steal from those that don't. Or even better, don't play games whose publishers treat the community like shit.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

Thanks for trying to bring an alternative perspective to the table.

Neither argument is very compelling. A) is like "if I can't have nice things, no one can", and think about those arguments against loan forgiveness or healthcare. B) is wishful thinking game companies will charge what people are willing to pay no matter how many copies are sold. And unlike physical goods, the cost per digital license doesn't really much if more copies are sold so expected sales volume doesn't affect costs much in that sense. Piracy itself also doesn't incur any cost (other than mythical lost sales), while Denuvo and other anti circumvention technology does.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

So self-delusion?

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

'It's not fair that we keep getting scammed and others don't'

So just don't give them money next time?

'LALALALA I can't hear you, it's your fault not mine LALALALA'

[–] JCPhoenix 9 points 6 months ago

That's a bot, right? That can't be real.

I've met plenty of idiots. Some days, I'm probably one of them. But I don't think I've ever come across someone who's pro anti-piracy. Usually people are just neutral about it. Even the most law-abiding people I know, when I've told them I can download movies for free, are like "Oh, are you able to get this movie for me? Thanks!"

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 8 points 6 months ago

Corporate narks are the worst kind

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

If you ride a bus without a ticket, other passengers will have to pay more because upkeep and salaries are more or less a fixed cost. That is if you can afford the ticket, it's irrelevant otherwise. Also depends on profit margins but I think it explains the point.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 13 points 6 months ago

If no-one pirated any Sony game do you think they would.

A) Lower the price of the game to maintain their existing profit margin.
B) Set a lower price that increases their margin.
C) Keep the higher price and just make a fuck ton more money.

[–] SinAdjetivos 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except that's not even how most bus systems work because most of them are majority funded by taxes with fares originally meant to serve as a stopgap but then slowly converted into a profit engine (usually after privitization). Fares are a way to gatekeep a service which your taxes already pay for, which I would argue, is by itself a form of theft.

As an example check out the latest MTA report only 26% of funding comes from fares, and that ones a bit in the higher end from what I've seen (NYC public transit, picked as the example a it's recently been in the news for issues with fare evasion)

All that aside, it's also worth noting that fare increases are extremely unpopular and it's not that easy to increase them without potential serious backlash (ie the mass protests in Chile a few years back that were in part set off by the fare hikes.)

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

I was merely explaining how one comes to this line of thinking which is what OP was asking about. I also mentioned some holes in this logic so I think it's clear it's not an opinion I actually hold.

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago
[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago

It’s not that hard to understand:

Development of games requires resources. More resources trends with better games (coin flip). If every player pays, the game development gets the best possible quality. And artists get to keep their electricity bill paid for the week.

Denuvo argues that their product guarantees the most resource extraction possible. This is debatable, and I personally lean on the side that it’s not as effective for revenue collection as advertised.

Nobody got rich being honest.

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 5 points 6 months ago

Almost instinctively downvoted after reading what's gotta be a bot post or a bad joke. Gross.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

The great thing about the Internet is that it lets everyone spout off about things they know nothing about.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And that didn't make sense in this case, almost no one pirates games with online multiplayer, even if it has a single-player mode

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