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[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 54 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Bethesda has so far stayed quiet about the update's reception, so there's no clue as to whether an official fix or even an option to rollback may be forthcoming.

My bet is they "fix" it in 6 months once most mods have been patched, this breaking them all over again.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I played Skyrim on and off (mostly off) starting about eeeh idk 4 years ago. Around November and a few months before that I got into the game again and decided to expand my mod list and go deeper into that rabbit hole. I’ve always played modded but it was pretty light stuff and nothing that required the script extender

Then they updated it and broke mods and just kept updating, so i bought oldrim and started again cus i only like to mod games that have stopped being updated for this exact reason

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Buy oldies on GoG, so you get control over versions.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

The unpatched version of Fallout Tactics is incredibly fun. There are so many cool bugs that make the game more fun.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's the modders who need to adjust the mods.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean, technically yeah - the criticism here is just that Bethesda chose the worst possible time to drop an unnecessary patch considering the influx of new players from the TV show's success.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It wasn't unnecessary, it was definitely necessary and many people, including me, waited for it. It's also the best time to drop the patch now that there's the hype from the show. It's unlikely to affect new players because it's an issue with mods, not the actual game. Can't image many players start a game for the first time and install mods but if anyone does that, there's a warning. You can't expect Bethesda to test the compatibility of their game with all the mods out there, that's up to the respective modders.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

The very least I'd expect is a patch note that fixes some long standing bugs that are yet to be addressed officially, but have been fixed in the Unofficial Patch. Here's their changelog, https://www.afkmods.com/Unofficial%20Fallout%204%20Patch%20Version%20History.html , there's one fix that was superseded by an official patch.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

You make a valid point, I just personally disagree that this was good timing on their part (and for the record I'm not downvoting you or anything). A better time would have been before the show dropped - granted, they likely didn't anticipate its overwhelming positive reception.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I bought FO4 after watching the show and immediately installed the highest-rated mod pack on Nexus, assuming with a game this old it'd work great. I've been playing their games since Daggerfall and believe that modern Bethesda games are best played modded - at the very least with the unofficial patches that fix issues with the base game. I only found out a few days after starting my run that there was an incoming patch that'd ruin my fun.

Anyway - it's not the end of the world. I'm used to patches breaking mods and having to replace them or wait months for them all to get updated. Just having some fun slagging on a publisher that, in my opinion, timed this badly. I don't regret the 10 bucks I spent on the game, as I'll eventually get back to it.

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[–] amio@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes - unexpectedly, on a game that's pretty much a decade old. Modders are not expected to maintain stuff that long, because when does that ever happen?

Then it's just... badly executed at that.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

Modders are not expected to do anything, there are also not a factor here as it's not their game and the developers don't need to check up with them. The update however has been 2 years in the making so hardly anyone can be surprised, especially modders.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh man the Starfield modding scene is going to be a fucking ghost town.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It already is. Check it out on Nexusmods. I did so late last week and they couldnt even fill 1 row of new mods this week. Even Morrowind still gets that done.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 months ago

Bugthesda tried to patch something and fucked it up? Oh no, I am thoroughly shocked. Definitely didn't see that coming.

[–] 0xtero 16 points 6 months ago

Average Bethesda experience I guess

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 6 months ago

Everything I hear about AAA games is just straight garbage

[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Excellent Fallout series"

lol feck off

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do you think it's bad? I've only heard good things about it 🤔

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago

It's as excellent as a live action adaptation can be.

[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Fallout fandom can be divided into two camps, Fallout fans and Bethesda fans. I don’t like Bethesda Fallout and from the little I watched of the show it wasn’t anything for me. 5/10 at best. I don’t care about ”the lore” or any discrepancies, I just thought it wasn’t very good.

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Ah, so it's more like the vibe of it for you, I guess? I kinda get that.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Damn and the next one for Dragon's Dogma 2.

Those flickering shadows you get whenever a light source moves—like, you know, the sun

🤦‍♂️

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I haven't been having any major problems except for occasional framerate stuttering, but then I don't use that many mods.

My only real complaint is that there's really no new story content, it's just a couple of new locations (Enclave checkpoints like FO3) some new armor and weapon types, and a handful of quests that are pretty much radiant quests with a coat of Enclave paint. Considering the download was like 10GB I was expecting more. If Google is telling me the truth, that's bigger than all the other DLC combined.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 6 points 6 months ago

I thought that it was going to be new Bethesda content, but then it was just workshop content, so it's not substantial.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 months ago

The title and the article are overdramaric. On PS5 it's working great. The issue looks to be messing with mods (which had been expected), not breaking the actual game.

I'm not sure what exactly is the point of installing this update on PC other than a questline and some cosmetics? As this update was mainly targeted for consoles to increase framerate and resolution - which it did better than I expected - and PC players could already do that without the update.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

Happens every time, especially if it has been years since the last update.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Consider Tale of Two Wastelands if you have the Fallout and modding itches. I've got lifetime nexus premium back in the day so I loaded up a wabbajack playlist and was good to go in less than an hour. Otherwise, it just takes more time to follow a guide.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Be careful with your lifetime. Mine was “cancelled” after trying to do an account restore, and they gave me a few months free to compensate. Wish there was someplace else for mods that wasn’t run by scum.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 2 points 6 months ago

Fallout really needs its own version of Minecraft's Modrinth.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Does wabbajack now work on linux?

Nobody wants to make a Linux build?

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

I have heard of people making it work, but I can't confirm for sure.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Hopefully London is around the corner

[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

What's wrong, only that it breaks mods or does it break even for regular usage?

[–] JVT038@feddit.nl 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm on PC and I haven't noticed anything changed. Literally. I don't notice any bugs nor have I noticed a sudden improvement of my graphics. It seems to me that the 15gb that Steam downloaded, was just full of 0's and don't do anything.

Edit: Nevermind, apparently the new quests and items are part of the update, so in that case I have definitely noticed something lol.