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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by zabadoh@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 

User count has plateaued at about 420K

Active user count rose significantly between 2/24 37K to 3/24 51K

Hopefully users who signed up last year are coming back to use their accounts.

Maybe because they're tired of ads on reddit?

Should we put together a collection and and buy an ad campaign on Reddit?

I can see it now:

"Ads suck. We're ad-free forever. Join Lemmy."

and

"He'll never get us. Join Lemmy." or "Don't let him get you. Join Lemmy"

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[–] darkkite@lemmy.ml 79 points 5 months ago (2 children)

ads cost money to increase users to eventually profit from them later.

how would a decentralized lemmy profit from the increased users.

Any money spent on ads would be better off hiring more engineering resources and improving lemmy for the next time Reddit does something dumb prompting an exodus.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 months ago

June is incoming. Some shit is bound to happen.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The idea is for some users to pool some money together to buy ads, not for the platform to do it. I guess the idea is that as users, we benefit from the additional content that comes along with more users.

[–] Umbrias 1 points 5 months ago

Because of the flat and nonprofit nature of Lemmy "users pooling money together" is the platform allocating budget.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 68 points 5 months ago

No. We should not give them our money.

If anything then we should post more links to relevant original Lemmy content on other platforms.

[–] missingno@kbin.social 64 points 5 months ago

Do not give Reddit money.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My reasons against that

  • we'd be directly giving money to Reddit
  • users dislike the places they see ads about, and it would appear extra desperate because of the point above
  • money is better spent supporting developers and content creators on here

Not to mention that Reddit will probably shut that down

That doesn't mean we don't do anything though. A number of subreddits continue to have automod messages and pinned posts directing people elsewhere. There are a lot of people on Reddit who WANT things to succeed here.

So some other ways to help.

On Reddit:

  • work with subreddits to set up parallel communities here, and ease the transition of people moving

  • find subreddits that benefit from backups / fediverse communities, and work with them to improve things

On the fediverse:

  • write up guides and update existing resources to help newcomers

  • Post interesting content on the fediverse. People use things they get value out of, and new people won't stay if things are quiet here. Set up an RSS feed, share the cool videos you see, write about your thoughts on casual communities.

Specifically financial:

  • Donate to the development of a project you like. If you can, reoccurring donations provide stability for the developers to work on things.

  • Donate to the instances that are running the services and platforms

TLDR:

  • Money can help, but paying for ads isn't the way to go (at least not yet)
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

I do like your ad ideas nonetheless @zabadoh@lemmy.ml. If we were swimming in money, it could be more of a discussion

A near black screen with small text at the bottom would be fun. "Ads suck, so we removed one for you. Come to the Fediverse for ad-free social media"

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm probably the weird one, but I specifically make it a point not to buy anything I've seen in any ad.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.one 1 points 4 months ago

I do this, too. I've noticed local companies who advertise heavily on local TV/radio often charge 2x as much as the competition who don't. And the aggressive advertisers are often arrogant and difficult to work with.

And it pisses me off when I see giant insurance companies spending millions on celebrity spokespeople and Superbowl ads. That represents a lot of denied claims.

Beyond all that: fuck reddit. Don't give money to spez.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't want users who come over due to ads.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I actually think users who click ads are probably the ones who most need to learn about the alternatives!

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yeah good for them but not for me.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago

lol fair. Whats good for me is more people educated on the benefits of open source!

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What would be the point of trying to increase the user count, beyond "line goes up"?

[–] cestvrai@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

I find Lemmy is better with fewer users just like Reddit used to be.

I kinda miss a few subs but they’ve been replaced by new things I discovered here.

The websites can coexist and users can do as we please.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 15 points 5 months ago

Lemmy(software) shouldn't buy ads but I don't think there's any reason an individual instance shouldn't buy ads if they choose to. Whether or not that will bring users that are worth having, is a different story entirely.

[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago

Personally, I would never give Reddit a single penny. Their garbage CEO does plenty to get people to leave and I am sure it will keep like that.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Besides the reasons already mentioned by others here: not all users are the same, and we're better off if some of them remain in Reddit. And yet this sort of advertisement is bound to attract people who are at the very least completely clueless (otherwise they wouldn't be seeing ads), if not worse.

Instead I think that a better approach is to simply use the platform. Create posts, insightful comments, use the voting buttons. Also, discourage people from derailing non-political threads with political content.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Up to you. But i wouldnt waste the time or money unless you want your site's iq to fall at an accelerated rate

[–] guts@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think just trying to gather any redditor is a bad idea, there are really bad twisted redditors.

[–] newtraditionalists 3 points 5 months ago
[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't put it passed r*ddit to accept the transaction then only push them to some group that makes them look bad so if that group leaves they can claim they successfully cleaned up their platform.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

Might as well, the bots, trolls and nazi's are here now anyways.

[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Only if it attracts Mike Pondsmith only.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago

No.

Fuck reddit, lmao