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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 153 points 7 months ago (7 children)

archive.org is cool and all, but a centralized service will never be a reliable way to truly archive something.

[–] ardi60@reddthat.com 59 points 7 months ago (1 children)

this repo still lives and we still have Suyu that looks promising, So, no worries atm https://github.com/pineappleEA/pineapple-src/releases/tag/EA-4176

[–] viking@infosec.pub 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Github probably didn't receive a cease and desist yet, but I doubt they'll put up a fight against Nintendo.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I highly suggest starting to familiarize ourselves with federated git repos. I‘m testing forgejo atm hoping to be able to host it publicly at some point. That way, once something is out there, its pretty much everywhere.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

the issue isn't federation or anything like that, the issue is finding a repo hosting service in a dmca resilient country

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I get that. But I dont think that its possible to really dmca every fork of a repo on 20 countries without running out of resources at some point because when one fork is taken down, people will make 10 more. the important part is discoverability imo. Feel free to educate me in case this is missing a point.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

its easy enough to send angry shit to every server, dmca and whatever rights violations they can think up, and it can become an issue.

Of course, the Federation is great, but you still need an instance that's in one of those privacy-oriented countries.

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[–] kaputter_Aimbot@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

-- A wild Codeberg appeared. --

Codeberg is a collaboration platform providing Git hosting and services for free and open source software, content and projects.

Website: Codeberg.org


The organization selected the European Union for their headquarters and computer infrastructure, due to members' concerns that a software project repository hosted in the United States could be removed if a malicious actor made bad faith copyright claims under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Wikipedia: Codeberg e.V.


In June 2022 the Software Freedom Conservancy's "Give Up Github" campaign (in response to the GitHub Copilot licensing controversy) promoted Codeberg as an alternative to GitHub.

Conservancy: Give Up GitHub!

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The DMCA only applies in the US. Every other country doesn't give a shit about your DMCA request.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and yet, they still obey them...

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

And even EU based companies will bow down to DMCA takedown demands, if they want to serve American customers.

[–] eratic@slrpnk.net 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Federated git repos doesn't mean that the source code will be replicated across instances. It just means you can do things like create tickets and pull requests across instances.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I understand. I should be able to fork a public repo across instances, no? Why bother otherwise?

[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 8 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Federation has nothing to do with that capability. git clone exists since the beginning of git.

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

At least not one that's hosted in a country where the IP mafia has any power, which is unfortunately most countries excluding places like Russia or China where you probably wouldn't want to host it anyhow due to a variety of other, uh… issues

[–] viking@infosec.pub 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As long as you host the checksums elsewhere so that users can verify the repo hasn't been tampered with, you can host files in China or Russia just fine.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's assuming that the only potential issue you care about is tampering though

[–] viking@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What else would I care for? We're talking about piracy, so I wouldn't turn the choice of a server location into a human rights debate.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can definitely care about whatever you want. Human rights aren't the only potential issue though, but there's things like eg. do you trust that you'll be able to retain control of the site. So for example if you set it up in Russia and you're not Russian, do you trust the Russian government not to pull the rug out from under your feet at some point?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 7 months ago

Well they might, even if I you were Russian. But that's what off-site backups are there for. It's less likely for them to pull control than it is for a Western platform though, so still a win vs. Github.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

What kind of logic is that? It is perfectly reasonable to care about human rights and totalitarianism but not for copyrights. In fact it seems a bit questionable that you would use the speeding ticket of online rule violations as an excuse to completely discard any other moral considerations.

Ultimately it's your choice of course, but still. Questionable reasoning

[–] viking@infosec.pub 7 points 7 months ago

A server is an emotionless piece of hardware, regardless of where it stands. Geo-arbitration is just that, in my eyes.

[–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

(I am not the person you replied to)

The problem with this argument is that you are ruling out entire countries for the acts of corrupt governments. Thing is there is no such thing as a clean government. Everybody has skeletons in their closet.

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This isn't hard. Torrent with a seed box somewhere outside of copyright enforcement is likely the best option as a "backup" source.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if IPFS would help in this case...

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your license thingy broke since that thread where you explained your script. It doesn't spoiler anymore.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What does it look like for you? I'm on the web client

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Maybe it's just the Boost app I'm using

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Probably. Does the Boost app support spoiler in another fashion?

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[–] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

will never be a reliable way to truly archive something

I think they're doing a damn fine job archiving something, and in reliable ways too

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Til it gets taken down and dismantled. Yes.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Nothing good is allowed to exist but in shadows. Shadow archives are essential.

[–] iliketoshare@lemmy.ml 132 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Since they're back at it again I have to jump onto my alt and re-share the fact that I totally backed up Yuzu's source code, their progress reports, their Github issues pages + pull requests, and all the latest available binaries right before it got taken off of Github. No illicit materials in my archive (ROMS/Firmwares/Keys). Freely available as a torrent.

https://lemmy.ml/post/12810167

Otherwise I wish the best of luck to the nascent Suyu project.

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks. Just added this to my torrent server and will seed until the server dies

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Shit I might add it to my collection of stuff I tagged "Forever :)"
Right now only the rarbg_db torrent is on it with a ratio of 46x (17gb upload).

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 79 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Nintendo brass = scumbags. Trash corpo who hates its customers except for milking their money.

It is morally good to pirate all Nintendo products, crack all their hardware, and disparage all their advertising.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even if there's nothing by them you want to play, pirate some anyway. Seed generously.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago

Corporate greed in Japan as a whole is truly something else.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 40 points 7 months ago

ugh FUCK OFF Nintendo

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How does Internet Archive has so many epub books if they are restricted by DMCA? Honest question

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 40 points 7 months ago

Nobody sent a request to remove them

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 20 points 7 months ago

They turn a blind eye as long as no one files DMCA notice. They do limit downloads of some popular pirated materials behind login though.

[–] ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I bet Nintendo wouldn't think twice to request books be burned if the yuzu source code is printed on them.

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[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 months ago

N I N T E N D O C A N E A T S H I T ! !

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

LMAO, get fucked Nintendo. You'll never take our archives.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I started storing program setups and driver packages as well as firmware tools on my PC.
Seems like that it was a good choice to store the Ryujinx, Citra and Xemu emulator setups...

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

Just copy all the source code to one giant book and distribute it through Tor.

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