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[–] xep@fedia.io 41 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I'd like replaceable batteries to come back.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 12 points 11 months ago

I as well. At the very least, we need some fucking differences in the market. Every phone doesn't have to be the same. Imagine the car market if all we could buy were Chrysler 300s. It looks sleek and nice but will crap out on you in a couple years and doesn't really fit in well with your career as a general contractor. When it dies, you have to go buy another one and start the cycle over.

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

That's why I'm eyeing to get a Fairphone as soon as my current phone breaks

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

My Fairphone does, and I have already purchased a batter for 35 euros, which I keep in my drawer. The phone is now just over 3 years old, probably in a year or so I will replace it. I am aiming for at least 6-7 years lifespan.

[–] baggins 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So say we all.

Been waiting to use that ;-)

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It seems like each new version of Android locks down the file system in some new way that breaks a core part of something I do, so I actively don't want to upgrade.

I can't root my phone because I need my banking apps readily avaliable right now.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm still bitter about USB mass storage being removed for only MTP. MTP sucks, any time I use it for more than a few small files it always ends up dying partway through.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yea, don't waste time with MTP. It's a hack to enable some access. It's always been unstable.

Use some kind of network sync tool instead. Syncthing, Resilio Sync, Foldersync, etc.

[–] ReversalHatchery 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Using the cable it could be much faster though. If it worked, that is.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Most entry level and midrange phones are still USB 2.0, even if they use USB-C physical port. USB 2.0 is 480 Mbit/s max, even old Wi-Fi 5 allows 1 Gbit/s speeds or even more. At this point the limit will be the writing speed of eMMC/SD card so even USB 3.0 becomes superfluous. After setting up my NAS, Jellyfin, Navidrome, Syncthing and Tailscale I haven't ever connected my phone to a PC for file transferβ€”photos get synced automatically, music/videos get streamed and if I need to move files manually I can just do it from/to the SMB share over the network.

[–] ReversalHatchery 1 points 11 months ago

even old Wi-Fi 5 allows 1 Gbit/s speeds or even more

Well, probably. I don't have experience in that. Probably though it requires you to be in the room where the router is, or paper thick walls.

As my phone's MTP miserably fails for files from almost 4 GB and upwards, when I do heavy copying I just connect the SD card to my PC with a USB adapter and do it that way.

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago

Wholly agreed, I even do more than the 3,2,1 backup because of it to a family member's routers which have SMB mounts and a Rasp pi down there with Tailscale on it. So helpful too having my Tailnet down there because it means I can remotely help them out without them even knowing.

Also, the above "must be via cable fanatics" should go and Praise DuARTe for not even using adb push/pull?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's why I stick with Android 12, all my banking apps work just fine with magisk's DenyList. Heard that's getting tricky on 13 or 14.

And I absolutely need root to add system-wide adblocking and security features like Ice Box and Storage Isolation.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I must be very lucky, but I have never been annoyed at something that Google does since 2020 (the year I got an Android phone and started to root).

Hail, AdAway and Swift Backup already improve my Android experience completely.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Yo, write better titles. I thought this was a video about how they didn't want to upgrade to Android 15 or something. But it's not. It's just about not buying a new phone every two years πŸ˜† In my opinion buying a new replacement isn't 'upgrading'.

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 9 points 11 months ago

Buying a new replacement totally is upgrading though.

That's why it's so rare to find phones with easily changeable batteries as most phones are like new if you just replace that.

[–] maniel 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Difference between updating and upgrading

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why I refuse to upgrade to a new phone - 8 minutes video explaining why it's not that interesting to ~~upgrade~~ buy new phones nowadays

I think that'd fit better.

But you all made me look it up on Wikipedia: "Upgrading is the process of replacing a product with a newer version of the same product. In computing and consumer electronics an upgrade is generally a replacement of hardware, software or firmware with a newer or better version, in order to bring the system up to date or to improve its characteristics."

I'm confused. Maybe because so many people use those terms wrongly. And I suspected them doing that. But I think I'd still like to refuse using the same term for describing upgrading a computer with an additional $35 RAM stick and buying a new $2.500 gaming rig.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm still on 13 just because I didn't see any point to upgrade.

I mean, I don't see the point in not upgrading when your device supports it. The interface pretty much stays the same at this point, and they usually do improve on security, and other background stuff.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I upgrade less than I used to, and I only do mid-range devices now, like the Pixel A series or Motorola G series. That kind of bracket. I'm just going to install Lineage OS on it anyway and it works fine so why pay more when I don't need that.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can just buy a used phone too. An older pro is going to be better than the new A. Same price too.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ReversalHatchery 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Until you replace it's battery. Often it's still doable, even if needlessly cumbersome

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I finally upgraded my phone after 7 years. I had trouble picking out a phone that didn't remove everything... no headphone jack, no sd card slot and we're supposed to call that an upgrade? (What I got still has those thankfully)

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 7 points 11 months ago

But it's got lidar so you can jack off hands-free by gesturing a jerking motion!

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I upgrade when I kill my phone. There's just no other reason to do it otherwise

[–] Faydaikin 4 points 11 months ago

Same. However I do work manual labor, so nothing too fancy lasts long.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 5 points 11 months ago

@Blaze I kept my last phone for about 5 years, and it was still quite usable when I left it. But I just lacked space, and I had to be picky even about the apps I needed. Now I plan on keeping the one I have until I no longer receive updates.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

iPhone XS Max, 2018. The only reason I might update is for the better camera. But this is marginal. I tend to buy one of the top line iPhone once in about 5 years, with enough memory. And they last long time. I might consider changing battery instead and get another 2 years… Apple is also super good with software updates on old hardware.

[–] considine@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Apple is also super good with software updates on old hardware.

Except for that time they deliberately slowed down older phones with software updates so people would buy new phones.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m using an almost four year old iPhone 12 mini, with absolutely no desire to upgrade. I plan to use this phone until it’s a brick.

[–] vanderbilt 1 points 11 months ago

I've been using a 12 Pro and if it wasn't for the version number in the name I wouldn't even be aware of its age. They are all so fast these days the battery dies long before it becomes too slow to use. If it wasn't for CarPlay and iMessage I'd absolutely use a flip phone with Android Go or something.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Upgrade when you feel it's time to upgrade, not because the latest and greatest just released again.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I feel it's time to upgrade when the latest and greatest just released again.

/s

[–] ReversalHatchery 3 points 11 months ago

It doesn't even have to be interesting. It's enough if it's not disgusting

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago

AP telling me things are not interesting smells like clickbait.

Why the hell did that happen?

[–] somegadgetguy@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)