This is a new satire site, right? These days it's getting harder and harder to differentiate between reality and fiction in tech. The rest of their posts are pretty much spot on.

[–] Poutinetown@lemmy.ca 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reality in Canada.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago

You can be web dev with an engineering degree

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 29 points 7 months ago

The name of the website is a play on the satire website the onion, it's satire.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks, I didn't even notice. It's not a normal decision that would be made, but sometimes there's weird stuff buried deep in the paperwork.

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[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The only real software engineer anymore is Linus Torvalds, everyone else stands on the shoulders of giants.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like… every engineer?

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[–] survivalmachine 49 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Honestly, nobody should call themselves an engineer unless they literally drive trains for a living.

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Driving a train is engineering?

[–] survivalmachine 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In North America, the driver of a train engine is called an "engineer", yes.

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I see, TIL. That's different from Germany, where Ingenieur is a protected term.

[–] _MusicJunkie 13 points 6 months ago

In the railway context an engineer was the person who worked the engine.

In German the word comes from Latin roughly meaning inventor. Presumably the general usage of the word engineer in English has the same etymology.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

See I’d call that a conductor

[–] captsneeze@lemmy.one 15 points 6 months ago

In the US, a conductor is the one who checks tickets, makes announcements, and delegates tasks to the crew to help ensure things keep moving on time.

The locomotive engineer is the one who is “driving” the train. They run the engine and communicate with dispatch and traffic control to keep them informed where this particular train is fitting into the overall juggling act,. They also make every effort to keep things safe (watching for signals, obstructions, etc.).

I’m not 100% sure if the terminology is different outside of the Us.

(Source: My father is a 3rd generation locomotive engineer.)

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

See I thought a conductor was a person who grabs a live main wire while standing in water.

[–] TheLobotomist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Funny and infromative

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[–] xor@infosec.pub 43 points 7 months ago (4 children)

can we ban web developers who call themselves "developers"?

also php programmers who call themselves anything?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you even know why you hate PHP?

[–] xor@infosec.pub 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

yeah, i've used it and it's absolutely trash...
but here's an article that sums up my feelings: https://eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/

[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 7 months ago (14 children)

That article is over a decade old. A lot of these issues aren't relevant any more or have been fixed. Some weren't even PHP issues, for example mysql_real_escape_string is a MySQL API (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html).

PHP isn't the best language, but it's not as bad as some people claim it to be, especially if you use a good framework like Laravel.

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[–] scorpionix@feddit.de 9 points 7 months ago

Just like my $variables I can be anything I want. Deal with it! 🫳🎤

[–] weevai 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

🖕

[–] xor@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago

sorry, my browser doesn't support unicode

[–] astraeus@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As if webapps aren’t usurping mobile and desktop apps, anything not C# or .NET is a toy language?

[–] xor@infosec.pub 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

c# and .net? ewww....

gimme c, c++, go, rust, ruby, python...
and umm, no dude, native apps are a lot more powerful than web apps... they are not usurped at all

there's more of them, but there's more scooters than motorcycles...

[–] astraeus@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Scooters are more efficient, get you where you need to go and cost less to maintain. Your analogy is actually pretty good in that regard.

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[–] metaballism@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So if I'm using Rust to write a web app that compiles to WebAsm, what am I?

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

they should also ban web developers who refer to themselves as ninjas, especially code ninjas

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have a CS Masters degree and it says engineer on it.

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[–] rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 7 months ago

I mean who cares? But also why? My old job title was "software engineer" and I just did web dev.

[–] jonsnothere 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As long as they don't start building tunnels under their house because they're an 'engineer'...

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 11 points 7 months ago

I get this is satire but people truly believe this. Web devs literally create software that runs nearly every facet of modern life.

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, engineering is really problem solving, and not do we web developers solve problems. We may have made most of them ourselves, and new ones when we solve those, but we do solve problems.

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

The term engineering is not about problem-solving, especially when differentiated from development. Engineering is about deliberate understanding and decision-making, about giving it an architecture, a structure.

You can develop without any structure, solving an issue, without understanding a bigger context or picture or behavior. But that's not engineering.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Engineering is the use of scientific knowledge to achieve specific goals.

[–] e8d79@feddit.de 9 points 7 months ago

Now this is the kind of 'news' I'd like to see posted on hackernews just to read their techbro shit takes.

[–] anders@rytter.me 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@LinearArray Deleted Tinder around a week ago.

It used to be really good back in 2012-2014 but not anymore I think.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Try fetlife

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[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What if my job title says that? Who's going to tell my employer they're wrong.

Then again, "full stack software engineer" as a title might also well just be buzzwords.

!And yes, I know the site is satire lol.!<

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago

I have a CS Masters degree and it says engineer on it.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is not a new kind of policy for Tinder. In the past, PhDs in Social Sciences were banned for impersonating 'doctors'.

How were they impersonating doctors? How does Tinder verify any of these claims?

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

First of all, it's a pretty obvious joke.

In this case, the joke is: "people with a PhD are doctors. It's a doctorate. But the field of social sciences is not real science, and thus shouldn't count as a doctorate."

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[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And this why i aim to get a PhD.

[–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago

So you can get banned from Tinder for impersonating a doctor?

(I too have a PhD. I feel your pain)

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[–] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 4 points 6 months ago

While backend- and other types of software developers seem to be unaffected

What if you write backend code for web application?

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