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[–] rumschlumpel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't forget about Fallout 1+2. They're about as janky as Planescape: Torment, but still great games.

[–] androogee@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't forget [two perfect masterpieces]. They're about as janky as [another perfect masterpiece].

I... guess I agree?

[–] sus@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I gotta be honest. I love New Vegas and FO1 but I gave up on 2 somewhere around Vault City. I'm sure the game has it's good moments, but the total whiplash of all the proto "so Random XD" humor got to me. I don't mind some random wackyness in FO, it just has to actually be funny.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a hot take I 100% agree with. Fallout 1 nailed the vibe and was perfect from start to finish. While 2 has a ton of great moments (Frank Horrigan is amazing), it isn't as totally consistent.

New Vegas married the two quite nicely.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago

I'm a simple man. I see Fisto, I upvote Fisto.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For anyone thinking about playing New Vegas again, check out Viva New Vegas! Fixes the gunplay, bugs, lighting, crashes, balance, and adds new important features like expanded consequences for your actions, cut content, a post-game where you can see the consequences of your choices, and better visuals!

[–] Titou@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crazy that everybody had serious bug issues with FNV except me(i had more bug issues with fallout 4 than FNV)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if you didn't notice them, they're there! For example, the iron sights are almost all misaligned, but this mod pack fixes that.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard it's mostly due to either low strength, weapon skill or in the case of the Hunting Rifle and Survivalist's Rifle, faults in the model itself.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That's how weapon sway usually works, alongside innate weapon spread, but there are legitimately misaligned iron sights at 0 spread and perfect stats, unintentionally from the devs. Other fun bugs include increased aim shaking when further from the center of the worldspace, micro stutters, an inability to play beyond 60FPS without destroying physics, weapon lighting assuming light sources are not where they actually are, and more!

All of these are fixed, and result in a New Vegas as you remember it, not as it actually exists. Absolutely worth playing with VNV.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To bad that even years after the release it was so bugged that i couldn't play it through.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except for some crashs i found the reason, i never had serious bugs

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you mod your game? Modded should have no crashes anymore.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That fixes the vast majority of crashes, but you also need other mods to manage memory, as it's bugged in Vanilla.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

With mods, it's pretty much bug free now, and crashless. Follow Viva New Vegas!

[–] Yadaran@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I prefer 4 and 3 to NV ngl

[–] Titou@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fallout 3 i can understand but Fallout 4 god no. Every great things in FNV were removed in Fallout 4

[–] Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have some opinions about 4, but nothing like the vitriol you feel towards it lol. Could I get an example of some things they removed in your opinion?

My complaints mostly boil down to how mediocre the story, world, and characters are. But I can't think of anything they removed necessarily, just poorly implemented

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They removed traits, a proper SPECIAL system, skills, proper skill checks, the reputation system, etc.

[–] Syd@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The complete oversimplification/destruction of dialogue trees still makes no sense to me.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

You forgot weapons/outfits durability

[–] Titou@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fallout 4 is good, but not as good as Fallout 3 and FNV

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Yadaran@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love the atmosphere in 3, it was my introduction to Fallout. And with 4 I have just so much fun with the world, the characters and modding it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair, have you played around with modding New Vegas? The mod scene is incredible lately.

[–] Yadaran@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no Intention of modding NV tbh

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think that's fairly common to be more in love with the first thing you tried. IME, I had played Fallout 1 and 2 as they released. Was exited for 3 when it came out, and while I thought it was a great game, it didn't feel like Fallout. New Vegas feels like the Fallout I know. 4 even feels like a good representation, though not as deep.

But I might feel as you do if I first played 3. Then all the other Fallout games would feel weird. lol